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▼Предыдущие опросы⬍

Что по DA4, анон?

1. Верю, что выйдет, и собираюсь играть(голосов 186 [47.21%])

   47.21%

2. Не верю, что выйдет, но хочу играть(голосов 61 [15.48%])

   15.48%

3. Верю, что выйдет, играть не собираюсь(голосов 15 [3.81%])

   3.81%

4. Не верю, что выйдет, и играть не хочу(голосов 17 [4.31%])

   4.31%

5. Похуй, если выйдет — поиграю(голосов 84 [21.32%])

   21.32%

6. Похуй, не собираюсь играть(голосов 31 [7.87%])

   7.87%

Всего голосов: 394

Гости не могут голосовать

Анон

Re: BioWare-тред

Варрик: - Ты ж местный. Как добраться до площади Думата?

Варрик же вроде и сам бывал в Минратосе, у него там кузен жил.

Анон

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Бе, ме, кря, Минратос большой, фиг знает.

Ну, я, например, без понятия, что и где находится в южной части Питера, живя в северной. А моя приезжая подруга, кстати, знает, потому что у нее карта и она целенаправлено ехала что-то там посмотреть.
Минратос - не городок на три улицы, в которых все всё знают.

Анон

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Честно говоря, очень жизненно хд

Условную площадь Ленина в своем городе, думаю, все знают) Его же не про малоизвестную забегаловку на краю мусорки споросили.

Анон

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Честно говоря, очень жизненно хд

Условную площадь Ленина в своем городе, думаю, все знают) Его же не про малоизвестную забегаловку на краю мусорки споросили.

Ты удивишься...
Т.е. можно знать, что она есть где-то в том конце. Но не как до нее дойти из конкретного места и быстро.

Анон

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Ты удивишься

Не, не удивлюсь. Игра никого не должна ущемить и людей, страдающих топографическим кретинизмом - тоже.

Анон

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Ты удивишься

Не, не удивлюсь. Игра никого не должна ущемить и людей, страдающих топографическим кретинизмом - тоже.

Точно так, анон, ты совершенно прав! Так что спасибо биоварам за то, что нас не звбывают! 

Анон

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Игра никого не должна ущемить

Особенно людей с косоглазием! Уже чувствуете волну инклюзивности?

Анон

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Игра никого не должна ущемить и людей, страдающих топографическим кретинизмом - тоже.

Хотелось бы хоть в игре им не страдать)

Анон

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Хотелось бы хоть в игре им не страдать)

Там везде иконки квестов)

Анон

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Там везде иконки квестов)

Спасибо хоть с миникартой в углу, а не как в ДАИ был всратый компас с кучей стрелок

Анон

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площади Думата

Мне все ещё интересно, почему Думата.

Анон

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По-моему, именно это его слова и значили, а не то, что там какое-то моралите про нельзя играть плохими персонажами.

Да вот если бы! Там именно про то, что магия крови это зло, и им не хотелось, чтобы главный герой их истории марал руки таким говном. В тред прямую цитату вносили.

Анон

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Вышло интервью с геймдиром о сопартийцах(и бонусом о Соласе и Варрике) на IGN
https://www.ign.com/articles/dragon-age … varric-too (может потребоваться vpn)

▼И оно же в видеоформате, есть новые катсценки⬍

https://youtu.be/wxkAVXjQrB0?si=5UcR0gw_ZTyc1Qws%D0%B2

▼немного копипаста из статьи⬍

▼Davrin⬍

Busche: “When we were thinking about Davrin, how we were going to develop him as a character, we had to think about, 'How is he going to show up on the battlefield?' And it was unique because he has this, I guess you could say, companion of his own, the griffon Assan. That makes him, as a companion, very unique, because Assan shows up on the battlefield. So we had to think about how that integrates into his abilities, where Davrin as a Grey Warden is capable on his own, but also, when does he call upon Assan and what does that look like? What happens if you're indoors?... And indeed, when you're doing some of Davrin's content, just seeing Assan gliding through the environments, you really get a sense that they care and they're protective about each other.
“…When we think about Davrin and his being the representative of the Grey Wardens within the team of The Veilguard, it was an opportunity for us to really go back to some of those roots that we know our fans, our players, deeply care about. Dragon Age: Origins, of course, was so Grey Warden-forward. We want to evoke those memories, those connections that our players have. And I absolutely love when you're journeying with Davrin, not only his aesthetic, how he carries himself as a Warden, but how he interacts with his fellow Wardens. The little wrinkle of, 'Hey, there actually are some griffons remaining in Thedas,' how he learns as a Warden to train and interact with these griffons that, to our knowledge, haven't existed for quite some time, it's a learning experience on a lost art of the Grey Wardens that is really unique to Davrin's character.”

▼Harding⬍

Busche: “To talk about Harding as a companion, I guess I'd have to go back to Inquisition. Of course, Harding showed up. She was your scout on the field. There was a light romance with her, and I think one of the things that the team didn't quite expect is how much Harding would catch on in Inquisition. Players fell in love with her, and we heard them. They wanted a deeper romance, they wanted more engagement with Harding. So for the team, I felt like it was kind of a no-brainer for us to bring back Harding, and we also wanted to reestablish that connection to the Inquisition in the world of Thedas, which occurred 10 years ago, the events of Inquisition.
“Harding serves as our proxy back to those events, and you get to learn about what's happened with the Inquisition since, so she presents some really lovely opportunities for us. I will say, personality-wise and her role on the battlefield, she is among my favorites. When you see her leap into the air, unleashing these devastating attacks with her bow and arrow, I just can't get enough of her.”

▼Taash⬍

Busche: “Taash, in the creation of their arc, is one of our more complex characters. It's a journey along their arc that is about introspection. 'Where do I belong in the world? What are my boundaries? What do I fight for? How do I become at peace with who I am?' So I love the juxtaposition, actually, between Taash's personal journey and this imposing literal dragon slayer, that sort of hard exterior and really gentle interior. It makes Taash a really special companion for me.”
(When asked which companion had the steamiest romance): “I'll just speak for me personally, but at the culmination of the romance arcs, I'd have to say Taash. When I got to that scene and saw the finished version of that cinematic, I was hollering. Hollering.”

▼Emmrich⬍

Busche: “The thing about Emmrich that is going to surprise our fans the most is his relationship with necromancy. I really love that we kind of turned the idea of a necromancer on its head here, where you think of them as these conjurers of evil, the certain malice when you hear the term 'necromancer,' but it couldn't be farther from the truth for Emmrich. There is a reverence about the dead. He has a unique relationship with death. You get to explore how he ended up in the Mourn Watch. Death has shaped this character in all aspects of his life, and we frequently refer to him as our gentleman necromancer. I think his proper, kind nature stems from that respect that he's learned about this cycle of life and death throughout his life.
“Manfred is like a son to Emmrich. He very much has an affinity for this wisp, this life force that he's given a second chance through this skeletal body, and in many ways, it's the story of a parent raising a child. Emmrich, he needs to teach Manfred and help him along to develop as a character of their own, things like learning new skills, how to assist The Veilguard. Some of our most charming moments are in dealing with Manfred, and I must say I absolutely love the interactions. They just have me rolling whenever Manfred steals the show.
“…In my last playthrough, I romanced Emmrich. What I also loved is as I'm synergizing with him as we're doing combos, just having him refer to me as ‘my dear’ on the battlefield. ‘Well done, my dear!’ It just fills me with joy every time.”

▼Lucanis⬍

Busche: “The character that went through the most changes [throughout development] without a doubt was Lucanis. Lucanis is very complex. He's an assassin. He is very skilled in the art of death. The Antivan Crows, they pursue these contracts with a certain level of dispassion, but also, Lucanis is a romantic, and he's dealing with some internal struggles. He's been through a lot of trauma. He's relearning how to trust. And all of those elements come together with a richness, but it creates a lot of complexity in how we tell that story. So I'd say Lucanis is the first one that comes to my mind in terms of the thought that's gone into it, where we've had to make adjustments to really cover all facets of his character.”

▼Neve⬍

Busche: “Neve is our confident noir detective. I love to bring her onto the battlefield because she's just so incredibly capable. She's our ice mage, so really big on controlling the battlefield, and that's actually a good metaphor to her arc. She wants to fight for change. She wants to fight for a better Minrathous, and she's going to use all the tools at her disposal to try and reshape Minrathous into a better place for all. She's very much a Shadow Dragon. This is among the mantra of the Shadow Dragons. They operate from the shadows, fighting for a better Minrathous. So as this accomplished ice mage, she's fierce. She's not going to shy away from any challenge, whether it's taking down darkspawn or dealing with the Magisterium in Minrathous.”

▼Bellara⬍

Busche: “Oh, my dear, sweet Bellara. I relate to Bellara a lot. She is joyous. She's been through a lot, but she remains curious, optimistic. She's kind of a geek. She really likes her fiction. She fangirls over Neve a little bit. She's just so relatable, and I think that's what our players will find and fall in love with when they get to meet Bellara, is just how much you'll recognize some of those patterns and sensibilities that she holds, but don't let it fool you. She is also a Veil Jumper. She's very comfortable in elven ruins. I frequently bring her with me in my party. I like to play rogue. I like to play the Veil Jumper, or the Veil Ranger. Bellara's a fantastic companion to set up that spec with electric vulnerabilities, so I love her both on and off the battlefield.”

▼Bonus round: Solas⬍

Okay okay, so Solas isn’t technically one of your core companions who will travel with you, but given his place in the Dragon Age story, we still had to ask about his relationship with Rook. Here’s what Busche had to say:
Busche: “Rook's relationship with Solas is a complicated one. Everyone has seen, at this point, the gameplay reveal and the opening moments of the game, so you'll know things got shaken up pretty radically for Solas already. He's trapped. He's basically communicating with you as an advisor, and I absolutely love that idea of, ‘He's your lifeline right now, but can you trust him?’ And those touch points with him, ‘Do I take his advice or not? Can he be trusted? Is he going to betray me?’ All the while giving you this information that you absolutely need in order to be successful.

▼Bonus round #2: Varric⬍

Varric, while a part of Dragon Age: The Veilguard and a series mainstay, isn’t part of your core companions either. But, as fans can see in the trailers, he’s still very much in The Veilguard, so we asked Dragon Age creative director John Epler about how he’s changed since we last saw him in Inquisition:
Epler: “Since the events of Dragon Age: Inquisition, he has spent the time, just briefly, obviously, [serving as] Viscount of Kirkwall. I mean, anybody who knows much about Varric knows how well a job where he sits around and tells people what to do is going to sit with him. He has been participating in the hunt for Solas. And I think for Varric in particular, that's a very difficult thing for him to do because Solas is his friend. Solas is somebody that he grew close to over the events of Inquisition. They adventure together, they work together.
“And now knowing who Solas really is, that eats at Varric. Because Varric always sees, Varric believes he can always make somebody do the right thing. Varric believes he is the most convincing, charismatic, because he cares about people. And he has this belief that as long as I get a chance to talk to Solas, I'm going to be able to turn him. But as he's seeing what Solas' ritual is doing to the world around him, as he experienced in the comics, Dragon Age: The Missing, that eats at him a little bit. That's challenging his world view of him as always being the best judge of people, being able to see that somebody is able to be redeemed. And he's starting to question a little bit, ‘am I right or am I being a fool by believing in Solas?’ ”

Анон

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▼
Emmrich

▼Скрытый текст⬍

Manfred is like a son to Emmrich [...] it's the story of a parent raising a child

Ну вооот, дают ЛИ с ребенком в нагрузку!   

Отредактировано (2024-09-06 00:26:58)

Анон

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Классические Биовары, лол.

Анон

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▼Скрытый текст⬍

Manfred is like a son to Emmrich

Ну вооот, дают ЛИ с ребенком в нагрузку!   

▼Скрытый текст⬍

Ну хоть не жена

Анон

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▼Скрытый текст⬍

“…In my last playthrough, I romanced Emmrich. What I also loved is as I'm synergizing with him as we're doing combos, just having him refer to me as ‘my dear’ on the battlefield. ‘Well done, my dear!’ It just fills me with joy every time.”

Анон

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Блин, я любил Хардинг в инквизиции, но лучше бы они не возвращались к ней Хардинг, которую я знал, не стала бы закалываться филлерами по самое не хочу, для начала.

Анон

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После того, как в последнем ролике показали футаж из Инквизиции, мне кажется, что Хардинг в ДАВ изрядно получшало.
Правда, тирексовские ручки у всех, а особенно у Рука, сильно бросаются в глаза. И женский вариант Рук-кунари всё еще человек с пластиковым лбом (хорошо, что и не собиралась играть за кунари, плохо, что дизайнеры и арт-директор почему-то не видят, что это плохо).

После ролика про компаньонов слегка заинтересовал Солас (в ДАИ и после анон был к нему тотально равнодушен). Упомянули какие-то фрески, которые раскрывают его слабые места и грязные секретики. Кажется, нас ждет очередной сбор мозаик (это минус), но с годной мотивацией (это плюс).

Анон

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Taash, in the creation of their arc

о нет

Спасибо, анон, что принес! Варрик, походу, все же переживет пролог.

Хардинг, которую я знал, не стала бы закалываться филлерами по самое не хочу, для начала.

Да они тут все такие.)
Я как-то смирился с мыслью, что это не совсем ДА, и это помогло с интересом взглянуть на проект. Все надеюсь, что он меня приятно обманет.

Анон

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That's challenging his world view of him as always being the best judge of people

Что-то я не могу перестать смеяться. The best judge of people. Варрик. У которого в анамнезе братец Бартранд, дружбан Андерс, возлюбленная Бьянка и теперь еще дружбан Солас.
Но как пример персонажа, всю жизнь танцующего по граблям, получилось отменно.

Отредактировано (2024-09-06 10:01:02)

Анон

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...у кого-нибудь ещё возникает ощущение, что нынешний коллектив биоварей в принципе не очень-то понимает драгонагу? Целиком, в смысле - сеттинг, лор, персонажи... Что дофига странно, потому что многие из них уже работали над серией, но избавиться от этого ощущения я всё равно не могу.

Анон

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Так это опять интервью, где Буш сияет. Тот же Эплер нормальнее рассказывает (закроем глаза на " мы наконец сделали интересный геймплей).

Отредактировано (2024-09-06 10:44:30)

Анон

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плохо, что дизайнеры и арт-директор почему-то не видят, что это плохо

я уже видел в твиттере разгон, что "вы ничего не понимаете, хорошо, что кунари сделали более человечными, потому что они символизируют поков и звериные черты в их облике это оскорбительный стереотип"    кто знает, может в нынешних  БВ тоже кто-то так думает...

Отредактировано (2024-09-06 10:47:15)

Анон

Re: BioWare-тред

Тааш красивая.