Фантастических тварей тред

Анон · 2016-11-29 02:41:48

Фантастические твари и здесь они обитают

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Анон · 2022-04-05 22:21:21

Анон пишет:

Ой не могу, смотрю эту закадровую сцену с Джудом и Мадсом, Мадс: и тут я такой вжух, вжух, а у Джуда такое лицо смешное, Мадс, наверное, сильно энергично взялся
https://twitter.com/summerof1899/status … 5272633347

Какие очаровательные придурки боже :lol:

Анон · 2022-04-05 23:08:08

Ой, прелесть :rainbow:
Теперь хочу Мадса и Джуда лет через 10 в ситком по типу Грешников :lol:

Анон · 2022-04-05 23:29:58

Анон пишет:

в ситком по типу Грешников

Ой ну это на гельбус уже натягивали, причем хорошо так)
Туда бы еще Ньюта как их соседа, что вынужден соседствовать с такой драмой. И Тесея тоже!

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Анон · 2022-04-05 23:39:48

Анон пишет:

Ой ну это на гельбус уже натягивали, причем хорошо так

Серьёзно?))) Блин, я пропустил классный накур))

Анон · 2022-04-06 00:08:58

Анон пишет:

Анон пишет:
Ой ну это на гельбус уже натягивали, причем хорошо так
Серьёзно?))) Блин, я пропустил классный накур))

Ну вроде многие сразу про этот сериал вспоминали. Не помню только сидели ли именно аноны и курили эту тему. Но ничего не мешает если что закрепить ее

Анон · 2022-04-06 00:18:43

Даже внесу одно тогда уж
Если бы Скамандеры были соседями гельбуса и Ньют привел Тесея знакомиться с соседями, о которых он раньше только слышал

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Если добавить скамандерцест, то Тесей потом в ужасе должен взглянуть на Ньюта, потому что он не хочет доходить до такой степени любови :lol:

Анон · 2022-04-06 00:58:58

Анон-гельбусник страдает.
Во-первых, я всегда обмазываюсь спойлерами по самые уши в первую же секунду. А тут нету( Нету! Только рецензии, а это не то, это дразнилка. Я должен знать, как там мои эдельвейсы, не потоптали ли их какой-нибудь гадостью, правда ли мой отп каноничный канон, гельбус гельбусится во все стороны и я могу плясать.

Во-вторых, я не могу пойти в кино, потому что я в Мордоре. А следовательно, не пойми сколько ждать пиратку. А в отзывах дразнилки про химию и вотэтовсе.

И вот я не могу не читать рецензии, потому что а вдруг какой спойлер выплывет, и читать не могу, потому что только дразнят, а не дают. Еще и любой бугурт в сторону как гельбуса в частности, так и геев в целом, адски пепелит мне жопу.

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Анон · 2022-04-06 01:19:36

Анон пишет:

правда ли мой отп каноничный канон, гельбус гельбусится во все стороны и я могу плясать.

Анончик, ну смотри, раз практически все рецензенты и просто те, кто уже посмотрел, даже те, кто хейтят, пишут про химию гельбуса и как отлично сыграли актёры, значит все там хорошо?) Не будь хорошо, наоборот бы зацепились и просмаковали, чтобы хейта добавить.

Я только думаю, что спойлерить там уже особо нечего... и все взаимодействие нам уже по кусочку показали.

Анон · 2022-04-06 08:22:30

Ой, мы там аж до 62% на томатах доползли, красный помидор получили) Оно меняется туда-сюда, сейчас 47 ревью.

Анон · 2022-04-06 08:39:39

Анон пишет:

Ой, мы там аж до 62% на томатах доползли, красный помидор получили) Оно меняется туда-сюда, сейчас 47 ревью.

Там прям битва за свежесть походу Но когда будет хотя бы 100 ревьюшек, уже можно будет что-то говорить оно будет меньше болтаться туда сюда наверное, хотя я на всякие томаты и метакритики не смотрю особо, многие фильмы которые мне зашли имеют там низкие рейтинги у кинокритиков.

Вообще больше заинтересован во мнении обычных людей и просто фанов ФТ и франшизы, критики это одно, а вот эти люди они они деньги в кассу несут и от них зависит чо дальше будет. Благо многие в моей ленте собираются смотреть фильм завтра/послезавтра/на неделе, будет интересно их почитать.

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Анон · 2022-04-06 08:58:54

Вношу два длиннопоста с тумбы с отзывами про фильм. Отзывы положительные, но содержат гигантские спойлеры, поэтому осторожно. Также юзеры посмотрели фильм всего лишь вчера вечером, поэтому понятно, что тут в основном эмоции, а не глубокая аналитика.

▼в основном про гельбус⬍

I’m back from watching TSoD.

I went straight after 10 hours of work after having woken up at 5 a.m and I’m very sleepy right now, so this will be a general opinion and I’ll be back tomorrow, analysing more things as they come back to me.

First things first, I like the movie a lot and it was visually stunning. It was both light and dark. It had humor and the beasts were cute, but at the same time there is a beast that has been woven into the plot more prominently than in any other movie and it worked thematically. We see some really dark times in the Wizarding World and the election-plot is actually interesting, if not perfectly realised. For example, during election-day we jump to the candidates and Vogel (played by Oliver Masucci) thanks the candidates for their speeches. Considering that the plot focused a lot on the politics, I wanted the speeches. I wanted to know their positions. This doesn’t make the movie bad. But it could have been more.

In terms of the characters, Dumbledore is the protagonist in this movie, with Grindelwald being the second main. They are the two that get explored significantly more than any other character. The plot is build around them. The themes throughout the movie are meant to futher our understanding of them. By the end of the movie we don’t know them fully, but we have a significantly better understanding of their emotional state. Their love is at the forefront. It’s not platonic, it’s not chaste. There is no kiss, but there is an intensity and in some occasions elegantly conveyed sensuality that is very satisfying. They got me right in the feelings and I got emotional in several occasions. Albus and Aberforth’s relationship was not developed as extensively, but I liked what we got and I think it felt true to my idea of the characters, as brothers who ARE there for each other throughout their lives in one way or another while still having an unbridgeable gab between them when it comes to communicating and letting go. There’s love, forever tainted by guilt and resentment and the movie manages to convey that despite Aberforth’s little screen-time. There was a significant retcon when it comes to the fallout at the end of the ‘three months of insanity’ though. Moreover, all the information we got was told instead of shown. I still wish for them to give us actual flashbacks if we get more movies *fingers crossed*.

As for the gang, they have a mission, they interact with each other in a way that is fresh and heart-warming, but I felt that they were secondary despite having a lot of screentime. While watching, I felt that if they were fewer the plot would not have worked so well, but at the same time I wished that they had distingushable arcs.

Then, during the full hour it takes for me to get back home from the theatre I was at, I started questioning my initial disappointment on that front. This is not a standalone film. It’s part of a series, many characters who were more fully realised in AWtFT and in TCoG got less development in this one and I could find aspects of the way thei were written being thematic parallels or juxtaposition to Dumbledore’s emotional journey. Not all of them can be developed on the same level at the same time. Another thing is that I started realising that there was more development that I had initially noticed. For example I absolutely loved Yusuf and Credence’s arcs after thinking more about certain details, which I will come back to in more focused commentary and meta. Newt mostly worked for Dumbledore’s character. Theseus too got developed in ways that were subtle, and which I started seeing later. Queenie was handled exactly how I had been saying she would be since I watched the first movie. She is the one character whose arc I had pinned down from the start. Now that it has come to a close in a way, I can’t wait to see what she makes of herself. Lally and Bunty were both loving and brave. I loved them. That said, I would like a little more emotional depth from Lally. I cared for her but I want us to find out more about her past or to see her connect on a deeper level with some of the characters for me to be completely invested in her.

An actual flaw for me is that I wish we’d gotten a fleshed out approach on Grindelwald’s genuine followers. I’d like 2 or 3 of them to feel like actual characters, instead of being typical henchmen/women.

Overall I am satisfied. I think that the main gripe I’ll always have with FB is that it’s not a book. Frankly, I don’t think that the development in the HP movies was THAT superior. I just had the book and I automatically filled in missing pieces. It was a combined experience. In this case, I like what I see, but without all the extra information, Iwant more. It’s such an ambitious story that I’d like to revel into the themes and the politics in a way that no movie could achieve, and I think it’s unfair of me to hold it up to such unreasonable standards. EXACTLY because this is an ambitious story, I don’t think it’s a movie that can fully appreciated WHILE watching it for the first time. It’s packed. The more I think about it the more I notice things that I could not fully processed at the time. I get the sense that I’ll appreciate it more as it settles and even more upon rewatching.
https://dumbledore-and-grindelwald.tumb … t-straight

▼в основном про ньюта, якоба, криденса и остальных⬍

Just watched SoD, it’s almost 4 am and I am happy and overwhelmed. Here are just some first impressions in the order that come to my mind, so massive spoilers below the cut!!

Newt is the sweetest and kindest human being this world has ever known.
Jacob too!
I seriously thought for a few seconds Jacob would become Supreme Mugwump. XD (It would have been really epic though.)
Basically everything Jacob said was hilarious, I just love him so much!!!
Mads Mikkelsen just was so so so so so good! Of course Grindelwald had much more screen time than in the previous films so it was easier, but still he managed to bring a depth and some kind of … liveability to Grindelwald’s character. I liked that very much.
I also appreciate how clear they made that Dumbledore was in love with Grindelwald (Although this can’t be called a secret, really. :D)
Albus had no secrets left, it was really about Aberforth?!?! Whew, I mean, I thought it could be coming, but still …
Also: What’s wrong with the Dumbledores? Ariana is an Obscurus, Aberforth’s son is an Obscurus … And how did both brothers manage to make such grave mistakes is only one summer?
I don’t feel like everything that happened in SoD Aberforth has the ought to still be so angry and cold against Albus (as shown in HP).
Newt was really lucky he wasn’t killed in his first scene. :0
In general I was surprised by the really lighthearted tone of the film - even in the more dramatic scenes I was never really afraid someone would die.
THIS FILM HAD WIZARDS ON ROOFTOPS, I AM HAPPY.
Newt was so happy and excited so many times, so I am very happy and excited now!!! How cute was it when he met Lally and they were basically both fangirling about each other???
Newt saying “She is” when talking about Tina, omg!!! And them finally meeting again!!! (Damn Lally, bad timing!!!!)
I’m not really content with the explanation they gave for Tina’s absence, though. I mean, Theseus is head auror too, and he seems to be able to go and do where/what he wishes.
Can we talk about the wide grin on Theseus face when he witnessed just how much in love Newt was in the end?? Maybe that’s even my favourite moment! Him just being so happy for Newt and looking out for him and EVERYONE BEING HAPPY FOR A CHANGE!!!
Ok, maybe my favourite scene was Jacob being happy because he’s GETTING MARRIED TO QUEENIE AAAAHHHHH!!! I must say I had lost hope for the two of them!
Will Newt and Tina kiss offscreen now?!?!?
Dumbledore, whyyyy didn’t you go into the bakery? Isn’t it actually a bit impolite to just wait around in the street and walk away??
Newt practising speech as best man *-* I love it how clumsy he was during every situation he was in a kind of leading position.
How did Aberforth and Credence establish the mirror connection???
How did Aberforth even find out this was his son??
I’m a bit confused and so, so tired.
Maybe Credence doesn’t have to die. We know that Newt can separate an Obscurus from it’s host, so maybe he can save him?
Wtf they did break the blood pact by ACCIDENT???? NOOOO, I’m not happy with that!!! That’s to … easy and random.
Just for the record, snow is not the usual weather in Berlin (but then there always seems to be snow everywhere in the FB films XD). I rather liked wizarding Germany btw. The architecture and the little details like the signs and the stamps (a cliché that always works because it’s funny and also still true I’m afraid).
The scene with Theseus and Newt in prison was a bit random but super funny, so I’ll allow it. XD But I’m still disturbed that they just stunned Theseus and dragged him away and everyone was like … it’s alright, we van look for him later. (It’s also not very healthy to hang upside down, but Thesues can manage it … because. Because he’s epic and very handsome nd I like him very much.)
The brothers finally, finally bonding!!! Not talking, though. But who needs to talk anyway.
Bunty was great! I’m happy that she was not helpless in her love. She’s still in love with Newt and he has no clue and she knows it’s in vain, but she’s not jealous or bitter but makes a deliberate decision to help. He definitely deserves more credit.
Basically all of the protagonists interacting with the Qilin just were so precious!!!!
What happened to Newt’s suitcase????
They definitely made a film that could serve as a conclusion, which was probably wise. I am wayyy to tired at the moment to find out how I feel about that.
I missed the “magical train person” they listed on imdb. :(
HOW DO YOU DARE AND CRUCIATUS JACOB!!
I think it’s an interesting choice to make the film so political and presenting an ending that shoes Grindelwald NOT rising to power.
Do we know which year this is taking place?
I kind of ship Lally and Theseus now, but on the other hand I’m happy to see a female character who is strong and intelligent and funny and witty in her own without being paired up with anyone at the end.
I didn’t really get all this time turner and parallel world stuff and that made it really confusing.
I need to stop now because I’m basically falling asleep while I’m writing and I’m sure only half of my thoughts make sense, not even talking about my terrible grammar.
https://newt-and-salamander.tumblr.com/ … -happy-and

Анон · 2022-04-06 09:45:44

Анон пишет:

▼в основном про ньюта, якоба, криденса и остальных

Ох, вау. Я доволен... всем в этой простыне. Неожиданно.

▼спойлеры⬍

Анон · 2022-04-06 09:46:48

Анон пишет:

Отзывы положительные, но содержат гигантские спойлеры, поэтому осторожно.

ааааа спойлеры наконец-то! хоть что-то перепало!

гельбусное

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Анон · 2022-04-06 09:52:41

▼спойлер про длм из отзыва выше⬍

:bu:

Анон · 2022-04-06 09:53:44

Меня тоже этот отзыв воодушевил, видно, что человеку искренне понравилось

▼спойлеры⬍

На фоне душного ехидства от фейковых гикбоев типа того чела с "Полигона" фанатские отзывы выглядят очень приятно.

Анон · 2022-04-06 09:55:00

Хочу, чтобы так описывали все мои отп

▼гельбусное⬍

Анон · 2022-04-06 09:56:01

Анон пишет:

Хочу, чтобы так описывали все мои отп
▼гельбусное⬍
Their love is at the forefront. It’s not platonic, it’s not chaste.

:sadcat: :heart:

Анон · 2022-04-06 09:57:33

мне кажется, эта фраза нифига не спойлерная, потому что ну для кого спойлер, что эти двое друг друга любят :lol:

Анон · 2022-04-06 10:03:17

Ещё один положительный отзыв, кратенько и с небольшими спойлерами, выделил отрывок, который мне понравился и о котором не говорилось в предыдущих отзывах.

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To begin, this movie is the best of the three by far. It gave us a look into the wizarding world, allowing to see witches and wizards outside of the U.S. and England and how they operate. The movie was a lot of fun to watch with lots of laugh out loud moments from New and of course Jacob, and many questions popped up as you watched it, keeping you engaged but don't worry, your questions do get answered. And all those questions you had about Dumbledore from the books ALMOST all get answered.

Jude Law still makes a great Dumbledore, Eddie Redmayne plays his role as Newt perfectly and as much as I hated that Johnny Depp got snubbed as Grindelwald, I think Mads Mikkelsen played the role well for this movie and to be honest, I'm not sure Johnny Depp's Grindelwald would've fit this part for the film. When you see it, you'll understand why.
When you finish this movie, you'll want to read the books again, and see if Rowling left anything in them about this story. You'll also be curious to see if all of your questions were answered about Dumbledore, which is a major reason why I'm rereading them.

Now for a deeper dive with possible spoilers:

Another thing that's well done in this film is the villain of Grindelwald. He's the type villain you fear because he truly believes what he's doing is right. He believes he is making the world a better place by wiping out muggles, and he still believes that Dumbledore wants the same thing. After relearning more about Dumbledore, I had to wonder if at one point he hated muggles that much, and he may have after what some Muggle boys did to his sister. So I wonder if at one point Dumbledore as a teen was all about helping Grindelwald taking out all non-maj.

We also learn more about Credence and where he comes from and he's actually a large part of the story and helps in another characters story arch, that some Potter fans will be familiar with and will come to learn more about.

The movie gives a lot of nods to the Harry Potter series, including the use of the Room of Requirement, students eating lunch in the Great Hall, quotes like "choosing between what is right, and what is easy", and even a visit to Hogsmeade. These moments do make it a little special and made the Potter fan within me giddy, and just enough that I didn't feel like they were overdoing it.

When you leave the theater you'll leave with a smile on your face if you're a Potter fan... I hope, but I hope you catch the message that I took from the film. Newt at one point is alone with Dumbledore, and after a very telling conversation tells Dumbledore something like, "we all mistakes, but it's important that we go back and try to fix them the best we can." And that's what this whole move is about, making amends and fixing mistakes of the past. Dumbledore made an unbreakable vow and he needs it to be broken, Newt and his brother Theseus become closer, and to avoid spoilers there are more mistakes that are healed during the film. (интересно, о чем тут речь) There is one however that Dumbledore knows that can't be fixed, no matter how much he wishes it could be and it's heartbreaking. It's a theme you sort of catch in the Potter films and books, where Dumbledore wishes he could've been a better brother, and in some ways he heals some wounds but there's still some he can't.
I hope you enjoy the film as much as I did, and for those who are bigger Harry Potter buffs than me, let me know what you think. From all the critics I saw it with, including the Potter fans, they all enjoyed it.

P.S. James Newton Howard is such a fantastic composer, I know you'll love the score!
https://pop-knowledge.blogspot.com/2022 … easts.html

Анон · 2022-04-06 10:06:47

В отрицательных рецензиях пишут, что

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Анон · 2022-04-06 10:07:33

Анон пишет:

выделил отрывок, который мне понравился и о котором не говорилось в предыдущих отзывах.

▼гельбусное⬍

Анон · 2022-04-06 10:16:28

▼гельбусное⬍

Анон · 2022-04-06 10:18:27

Анон пишет:

▼гельбусное

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Ну да ладно чот я совсем расползся, я рад что есть позитивные отзывы на фильм, надеюсь их будет больше.))

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Анон · 2022-04-06 10:20:38

Я просто не могу дождаться уже, когда сам посмотрю, чтобы самому все прочувствовать, посмотреть, какие у меня впечатления будут.

Анон · 2022-04-06 10:22:48

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