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English thread

Let's chat in English, dear anonymous! You can write about everything here, regardless of your level.

Your English level is…

1. A1(голосов 7 [3.55%])

   3.55%

2. A2(голосов 11 [5.58%])

   5.58%

3. B1(голосов 26 [13.2%])

   13.2%

4. B2(голосов 56 [28.43%])

   28.43%

5. C1(голосов 67 [34.01%])

   34.01%

6. C2(голосов 30 [15.23%])

   15.23%

Всего голосов: 197

Гости не могут голосовать

Анон

Re: English thread

At the end, you can see our algorithm's best guess as to which English you speak as well as whether your first (native) language is English or something else.

http://archive.gameswithwords.org/WhichEnglish/

Woah, it guessed Hungarian, Russian and Finnish 

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Re: English thread

They do care, they're just too polite to call you an ESL directly to your face

PC, more than just politeness 

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Re: English thread

At the end, you can see our algorithm's best guess as to which English you speak as well as whether your first (native) language is English or something else.

http://archive.gameswithwords.org/WhichEnglish/

English, Russian and Polish

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Our top three guesses for your English dialect:?
1. US Black Vernacular / Ebonics
2. English (England)
3. Australian
Our top three guesses for your native (first) language:?
1. German
2. Hungarian
3. English

It do be like that...

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Re: English thread

Woah, it guessed Hungarian, Russian and Finnish 

And what English do you speak?

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Re: English thread

English, Russian and Polish

Woah, it guessed Hungarian, Russian and Finnish 

How do y'all get Russian there?

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1. US Black Vernacular / Ebonics

The same 

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How do y'all get Russian there?

Idk

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The same 

I swear I didn't even pick the sentences with habitual be, there were some

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Our top three guesses for your English dialect:
1. Singaporean
2. US Black Vernacular / Ebonics
3. New Zealandish
Our top three guesses for your native (first) language:
1. Vietnamese
2. Italian
3. Romanian

Ehehehehe

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Re: English thread

Ehehehehe

Wow, anon, that's some nice mix you've got there

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Wow, anon, that's some nice mix you've got there

I'm international as shit and I constantly pick up other people's accents, so I can take this quiz twice a week and get different results I suspect 

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Re: English thread

Our top three guesses for your English dialect:
1. Singaporean
2. American (Standard)
3. New Zealandish

Our top three guesses for your native (first) language:
1. Greek
2. Romanian
3. English

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Re: English thread

I talk in english on tumblr and discord, often feel like I either skip a, an, the or add them unnecessarily. Meh, no one seemed to care.

They do care, they're just too polite to call you an ESL directly to your face

But it's ok, isn't it? When somebody who is not native Russian-speaking person speaks Russian with terrible accent and lots of mistakes we understand that it's not his or her native language and try to be easy on him/her. So it's quite normal that English-speakers are polite with those for whom English is just a second or even a third language, right?

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Is ESL even derogatory?

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So it's quite normal that English-speakers are polite with those for whom English is just a second or even a third language, right?

True. And native English speakers are so used to talking to/meeting non-natives that speak English with a varying degree of fluency that they get used.

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Re: English thread

we understand that it's not his or her

Oh, yes, question - why people don't just use 'their' in cases like this?

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Oh, yes, question - why people don't just use 'their' in cases like this?

Oh, anon, there's a heated debate about this issue. Some argue wether "her" shoud go first, out of respect for women, I supose. Others opt for "default her" and just use it like people would say "his" by default 50 years ago - I had a professor who did that and it took me some time to get used to that. Prescriptivists say "they" is plural and therefore cannot be used to refer to one person.
I personally use "their" and it doesn't bother me the slightest. But there's a significant clash of opinions here

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Re: English thread

we understand that it's not his or her

Oh, yes, question - why people don't just use 'their' in cases like this?

Just a matter of habit.

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I was taught that there are two types of mistakes that non-native speakers can make - those that obstruct the meaning of what you're trying to say and those that don't, and in learning the language you should definitely fix the first type, but if you make mistakes of the second type it's not the end of the world.

(no, ESL is not derogatory. Most people online are ESL speakers. A significant part of the world consists of ESL speakers. And native speakers of English are often bad at learning _any_ language well enough to communicate in it - they can afford it b/c so many people speak a bit of English, but also in my experience they honestly admire people who can communicate in a foreign language)

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Oh, yes, question - why people don't just use 'their' in cases like this?

'Cause it sounds uyebish'no and even not all natives accept it

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'Cause it sounds uyebish'no and even not all natives accept it

While the modern use of 'they' is a subject of much dispute, the specific use that we're talking about here is very old and widespread. You sound just like the people who think words like 'переводчица' are nasty modern political inventions and not an integral part of the Russian language.

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Prescriptivists say "they" is plural and therefore cannot be used to refer to one person.

But that's the point, it's not reference to one exact person.

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You sound just like

No I don't