Måneskin. Всё от Евровидения до рпс-ных фичков

Гималайская · 2020-05-12 19:04:16

Тред о скромной итальянской группе из Рима, которая всего 4 года назад играла на улицах, а потом вдруг проснулась, станцевала у шеста, выиграла Сан-Ремо, Евровидение, покорила весь мир в целом и аноньи сердечки в частности.

▼Все, что вы хотели знать о Måneskin, но боялись искать в стремительно разрастающемся треде⬍

▼инстаграмы, твиттер, сайт, ютуб-канал⬍

▼дни рождения, рост⬍

▼Евровидение, winners performance⬍

▼СанРемо winners performance⬍

▼Официальный ответ Дамиано Давида на официальное заявление организаторов Евровидения о том, что наркотиков в его анализе не обнаружено)⬍

▼Золотой фонд⬍

▼символ Евровидения⬍

▼победные поцелуи с Томасом и Итаном⬍

▼Гифка с шампанским⬍

▼тверк⬍

▼Обнимашки с Сан-Ремо⬍

▼Ковер⬍

▼Дамиано и шпильки, Дамиано и шест⬍

▼общие татушки, промофото ню⬍

▼Наиболее Полная Коллекция Волнующих Анонов Штанов Бусинки⬍

▼Бэст оф⬍

▼Фанфики⬍

Анон, помни - прежде чем спросить, ткни в шапку. Серьезно, ткни, в ней много интересного.

Анон · 2021-07-29 07:40:32

Анон пишет:

▼Рагацци вчера в Риме⬍

▼шипперское⬍

Анон · 2021-07-29 08:20:51

Анон пишет:

Анон пишет:
▼Рагацци вчера в Риме⬍

▼шипперское⬍
Да, Дамиано, всё правильно делаешь, обнимать за плечо Вик, стоящую рядом - это для слабаков, надо ДОТЯНУТЬСЯ и ОБОЗНАЧИТЬ

▼тоже шипперское⬍

Анон · 2021-07-29 08:22:33

Анон пишет:

▼Рагацци вчера в Риме⬍

Этан, в Риме +34 ,нахрена тебе пиджак??

Анон · 2021-07-29 08:39:01

Анон пишет:

Анон пишет:
▼Рагацци вчера в Риме⬍

▼шипперское⬍
Да, Дамиано, всё правильно делаешь, обнимать за плечо Вик, стоящую рядом - это для слабаков, надо ДОТЯНУТЬСЯ и ОБОЗНАЧИТЬ

▼Скрытый текст⬍

Анон · 2021-07-29 08:45:01

▼Околофичковое⬍

Анон · 2021-07-29 09:23:28

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▼Рагацци вчера в Риме⬍

Фан-акки не всегда любят подписывать источники, но я выяснила интересное.
Фото запостил Дэвид Мэсси. Дядька крутой и крайне влиятельный. На данный момент он возглавляет американскую дочку Сони Arista Records

▼Скрытый текст⬍

Несмотря на то, что он сейчас глава лейбла, у него за спиной и звукорежиссерская работа, и музыкальным менеджером он тоже был. Есть специальный индустрийный таблойд HDD, так вот он считает Мэсси одной из самых влиятельных фигур индустрии на данный момент, но такой, подковерной, типа серого кардинала (в отличие от Роба Стингера, главы Сони). Быстрый чес по его инсте показывает, что две недели назад он начал постить ребят, а еще у Arista был пост про выхода клипа ребят. Даже внутри одного монстролейбла не принято анонсировать выходы клипов артистов других дочек. Т.е. если артист подписан на RCA, к примеру, то его не будет рекламировать Syco. Теперь вот личная встреча с ребятами в Риме, да еще и фотографиями. Скорее всего ребят в штатах будет представлять Arista. Возможно, громкий перезапуск лейбла планируют сделать с помощью ребят.

Отредактировано (2021-07-29 09:33:32)

Анон · 2021-07-29 09:25:55

Не помню, приносили вчера или нет, интервью на диванчике для Rai24
https://www.rainews.it/dl/rainews/media … c866c.html

Анон · 2021-07-29 09:31:06

Не знаю, притаскивали или нет. Инью для польского Teraz Rock с переводом на английский.
Любимая цитата:

I: Your behaviour on stage is often the reason for homophobic attacks. What would you say to homophobes here in Poland?
V: Fuck them!!!
T: Fuck them!
E: Fuck them, fuck them! (laughing)
D: Maybe not so vulgar…..
T: Fuck them!
D: For sure they should open up more, get rid of prejudices. Make a step forward. Free themselves from the old way of thinking. Let the others live however they want.

▼обложка⬍

▼полный текст⬍

A well know polish magazine about rock music 'Teraz Rock’ (Now Rock) had an interview with Måneskin, and since one of the polish fans on FB shared pictures of the magazine, I decided to translate the interview, because I loved some of the stuff they said there! :D

As always, the whole thing is under read more.

Maneskin is not only ‘Zitti e buoni’ and their winning performance in Rotterdam during the recent finale of Eurovision Song Contest. Italian band fits perfectly into the trend of rock restorers, and at the same time fights with the mental narrowness, prejudices and homophobia. On August 19th they will play In Park Kolibki In Gdynia.

I: You started by playing on the streets of Rome…

V: Unfortunately, there is not a lot of possibilities to debut in Rome. Rome is lacking the appropriate places, there are almost no rock shows. So we couldn’t find a place where we could show ourselves to the people. So we decided to play on the streets to gain the following, the listeners. We did that for good few months. And we had a lot of fun doing that. We think it really helped us, too. Because when you play on the streets, you don’t play for someone who came to listen to you. You need to attract people’s attention. So it was a great lesson on stage skills, to keep the attention. And we played many hours each day, so we also evolved as musicians, as a band.

I: Is it true that you had issues with police?
V, D, T, E: Yes, that’s true!! (laugh)

D: It was all because of this old lady, that lived on the first floor, near the place where we used to play. She snitched on us! And sometimes police came and tried to get us to leave.

I: They didn’t arrest you?

D: No, it wasn’t that bad.

V: We were 16 back then. We just went all ‘We swear we won’t do it again!’ (laugh). We hid somewhere for 10 minutes….

D: Went around the block….

V: And played again (laugh).

I: You admited that at first you were shy. How did it happen that you gained so much self-confidence? Do you think one has to be self-confident if they want to show the world that they have something to say in music, in art?

V: It is important, but its more about feeling good with yourself and having fun doing what you do, rather than confronting the world. I think that if you lack confidence, you can’t fully enjoy creating, because you keep thinking ‘What the other will think about it?’. But everyone has to go through this phase. In my opinion, self-confidence is not something you’re born with. Everyone has the moments of hesitation and doubt. I have them too, still. And I think that’s perfectly normal. But you need to learn to appreciate yourself, accept yourself the way you are, because you can’t run away from yourself. We have whole life with ourselves, until the day we die (laugh).

I: Damiano, in one of the interviews you said ‘What we say, can change someone way of thinking’. Do you want to influence your audience? Artist like Chuck Berry or AC/DC just had fun on stage.

D: We also have fun on stage. But now, when we’re well known, we can get to many people, especially young ones. And there’s a chance, that if we say something positive to them, we could help them with their problems, that they can’t fight on their own. For example – like Vic said – we can help them gain more self-confidence and make them feel safer in the world around them. I’ll say this: if as a musician you have something to share with others, do it. But if you just want to have fun playing, that’s OK too.

T: Exactly.

I: Your behaviour on stage is often the reason for homophobic attacks. What would you say to homophobes here in Poland?

V: Fuck them!!!

T: Fuck them!

E: Fuck them, fuck them! (laughing)

D: Maybe not so vulgar…..

T: Fuck them!

D: For sure they should open up more, get rid of prejudices. Make a step forward. Free themselves from the old way of thinking. Let the others live however they want.

I: You debuted in 2017 with EP ‘Chosen’ with two of your own songs and few covers. Even tho you were so young, you already came off as mature musicians with a set style…

V: Thanks, but I don’t think so (laugh).

D: I don’t think we would agree with that.

E: We wouldn’t agree with that, definitely.

V: My bass playing skills definitely left much to be desired.

D: 'Chosen’ definitely has its advantages, but… we were still looking for our sound back then. That EP is so much more different than our other albums. But it is a part of our career, our journey, and we don’t regret anything that has to do with it. We had a lot of fun recording it and… its something we did in the past and we’re happy that people loved it.

V: Still love it!

D: Exactly, still love it. Even tho we changed so much since then.

V: The most important and coolest thing about that EP is that even tho we were really young and our skills weren’t as good, you can still hear that we already had charisma and knew what we wanted. And even tho most of the EP consists of known songs, we changed them, played them in our own way, our own style. And that’s really cool because it shows us as a band with their own personality. Of course, now that we listen to that EP, we have lot to complain about…

D: We would do the songs much better.

V: But we like the attitude we already had back then. Even tho we were so young.

E: Our sound really changed since then, but you need to remember that when we we’re recording it, it was already a huge accomplishment for us.

D: That’s true.

I: On ‘Chosen’ Damiano sung in english. On your first album, ‘Il ballo della vita’ from 2018, you had songs in italian as well. Did your songs get more personal because of that?

D: I wouldn’t say that. We started writing songs in italian out of necessity. If you’re an Italian artist and want to reach Italian audience, you need, you have to sing in italian, because not a lot of people speak english there. Now it’s different, we managed to reach international audience, so we can make more songs in english. But we won’t resign from italian, we like to write in italian as well.

I: While recording ‘Il ballo della vita’ you made documentary ‘This Is Maneskin’…

E: They will never forget it! (laugh)

I: You can see there, that during that time you argued a lot.

D: We were young!

I: Did the conflicts threaten your band’s future?

D: No! We were just starting out…

V: Conflicts were inevitable. We were very young and suddenly tabloids were writing about us. And recording an album required a lot of work. And we never experienced that before, we had issues dealing with work in the studio. Because creating and recording together isn’t easy. You need to make many decisions, everyone has their own opinion. Now we’re more mature, we know how to deal with those situations. We can discuss with each other in a constructive way. We were much more childish back then and yeah, we fought sometimes. But even then nothing happened that could threaten our band.

I: ‘Il ballo della vita’ is a concept album of sorts. You have there Marlena, who, like you said, is personification of the concern a lot of you have – that we’re not able to be yourself…

D: The album was supposed to share a message to our fans. We wanted to tell them how important for us is the freedom to be yourself. The ability to love someone, that was chosen by our heart. Freedom to wear the clothes we like. Et cetera, et cetera… We realized that the album would speak to people more, and will be easier to understand, if we gave that idea a name. Of course it’s an idea that we still share to this day, just maybe a bit differently.

I: Your last album, ‘Teatro D’Ira Vol. 1’, you recorded live in studio. Did the way you worked on it was much different from the way you recorded ‘Il ballo della vita’?

D: Oh yeah! It definitely took us less time!

V: Definitely much faster. It was very exciting. We wanted to keep in studio the energy we have when we play concerts, which meant playing together. Which is of course much more difficult than recording separately. But we told to ourselves: let it be, we should at least try. And we loved the result.

D: You know, at first you work on the material in rehearsal room. And you’re full of energy. But then you come into recording studio, where you divide the song into parts, and you loose that power, that magic. So we realized that we should change the way we work, so we could keep the emotions from rehearsals.

I: ‘Teatro D’Ira Vol. 1’ is another concept album. You said its all about the rage, that plays the role of catharsis sometimes. Can you say something more about it?

V: Anger is mostly seen as something negative. And we think that classifying emotions as positive or negative is stupid. Especially in art. When you’re creating, anger can make you give more from yourself, say more. And that’s what our album is about, talking about the world of theatre. We show that something that’s seen as bad, can – especially in the world of art – become something good. And those songs, that are so full of rage, can bring relief to our listeners, which only confirms what I’m trying to say.

I: In the lyrics to 'In nome del padre’ and ‘Vent’anni’ you’re talking about mistakes you made in the past…

D: They are very different tracks, even if they seem to talk about the same topic. Vent’anni is all about our age, because we think it’s a very special moment in your life: you become an adult, but you’re still too young to be considered as such, and they don’t treat you seriously. We wanted to share that with our fans, because maybe they think the same. And In nome del padre is about the battle we had to fight, the mistakes we had to make, to get where we are today. Of course we’re still young, we still make mistakes. But I’m singing about the mistakes from the past, because they made us the way we are today. And I’m saying: don’t be afraid to make mistakes, because they are a part of your journey, your life. What’s important is how you react to those mistakes.

E: It’s not a mistake to make mistakes.

I: The next album, continuation of ‘Teatro D’Ira Vol. 1’ – is it already recorded?

D: No, no.

V: Indeed, our next album will be continuation of ‘Teatro D’Ira Vol. 1’, but we’re still working on it. We don’t want to record it in a hurry, we want to take our time making it.

D: We have a lot of songs already, but we want to have plenty to choose from. We want the album to have the most representative songs, the best ones.

Анон · 2021-07-29 09:31:46

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▼Рагацци вчера в Риме⬍

Фан-акки не всегда любят подписывать источники, но я выяснила интересное.
▼Скрытый текст⬍
Фото запостил Дэвид Мэсси. Дядька крутой и крайне влиятельный. На данный момент он возглавляет американскую дочку Сони Arista Records
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Дочка не самая "громкая" на данный момент, по-настоящему больших актуальных артистов у них вроде бы нет. В анамнезе Уитни Хьюстон, Тони Брэкстон и пр. В 2018 Мэсси поставили во главу лейбла с целью его "перезапустить", потому что он уже достаточно долго никаких супер-крутых новых артистов не представляет.
Несмотря на то, что он сейчас глава лейбла? у него за спиной и звукорежиссерская работа, и музыкальным менеджером он тоже был. Есть специальный индустрийный таблойд HDD, так вот он считает Мэсси одной из самых влиятельных фигур индустрии на данный момент, но такой, подковерной, типа серого кардинала (в отличие от Роба Стингера, главы Сони). Быстрый чес по его инсте показывает, что две недели назад он начал постить ребят, а еще у Arista был пост про выхода клипа ребят. Даже внутри одного монстролейбла не принято анонсировать выходы клипов артистов других дочек. Т.е. если артист подписан на RCA, к примеру, то его не будет рекламировать Syco. Теперь вот личная встреча с ребятами в Риме, да еще и фотографиями. Скорее всего ребят в штатах будет представлять Arista. Возможно, громкий перезапуск лейбла планируют сделать с помощью ребят.

Ух ты, спасибо, очень интересно!
ссылка на инст https://www.instagram.com/davidmassey123/

Анон · 2021-07-29 09:35:19

Анон пишет:

Не знаю, притаскивали или нет. Инью для польского Teraz Rock с переводом на английский.
Любимая цитата:
I: Your behaviour on stage is often the reason for homophobic attacks. What would you say to homophobes here in Poland?
V: Fuck them!!!
T: Fuck them!
E: Fuck them, fuck them! (laughing)
D: Maybe not so vulgar…..
T: Fuck them!
D: For sure they should open up more, get rid of prejudices. Make a step forward. Free themselves from the old way of thinking. Let the others live however they want.
▼обложка⬍
▼полный текст⬍
A well know polish magazine about rock music 'Teraz Rock’ (Now Rock) had an interview with Måneskin, and since one of the polish fans on FB shared pictures of the magazine, I decided to translate the interview, because I loved some of the stuff they said there! :D
As always, the whole thing is under read more.
Maneskin is not only ‘Zitti e buoni’ and their winning performance in Rotterdam during the recent finale of Eurovision Song Contest. Italian band fits perfectly into the trend of rock restorers, and at the same time fights with the mental narrowness, prejudices and homophobia. On August 19th they will play In Park Kolibki In Gdynia.
I: You started by playing on the streets of Rome…
V: Unfortunately, there is not a lot of possibilities to debut in Rome. Rome is lacking the appropriate places, there are almost no rock shows. So we couldn’t find a place where we could show ourselves to the people. So we decided to play on the streets to gain the following, the listeners. We did that for good few months. And we had a lot of fun doing that. We think it really helped us, too. Because when you play on the streets, you don’t play for someone who came to listen to you. You need to attract people’s attention. So it was a great lesson on stage skills, to keep the attention. And we played many hours each day, so we also evolved as musicians, as a band.
I: Is it true that you had issues with police?
V, D, T, E: Yes, that’s true!! (laugh)
D: It was all because of this old lady, that lived on the first floor, near the place where we used to play. She snitched on us! And sometimes police came and tried to get us to leave.
I: They didn’t arrest you?
D: No, it wasn’t that bad.
V: We were 16 back then. We just went all ‘We swear we won’t do it again!’ (laugh). We hid somewhere for 10 minutes….
D: Went around the block….
V: And played again (laugh).
I: You admited that at first you were shy. How did it happen that you gained so much self-confidence? Do you think one has to be self-confident if they want to show the world that they have something to say in music, in art?
V: It is important, but its more about feeling good with yourself and having fun doing what you do, rather than confronting the world. I think that if you lack confidence, you can’t fully enjoy creating, because you keep thinking ‘What the other will think about it?’. But everyone has to go through this phase. In my opinion, self-confidence is not something you’re born with. Everyone has the moments of hesitation and doubt. I have them too, still. And I think that’s perfectly normal. But you need to learn to appreciate yourself, accept yourself the way you are, because you can’t run away from yourself. We have whole life with ourselves, until the day we die (laugh).
I: Damiano, in one of the interviews you said ‘What we say, can change someone way of thinking’. Do you want to influence your audience? Artist like Chuck Berry or AC/DC just had fun on stage.
D: We also have fun on stage. But now, when we’re well known, we can get to many people, especially young ones. And there’s a chance, that if we say something positive to them, we could help them with their problems, that they can’t fight on their own. For example – like Vic said – we can help them gain more self-confidence and make them feel safer in the world around them. I’ll say this: if as a musician you have something to share with others, do it. But if you just want to have fun playing, that’s OK too.
T: Exactly.
I: Your behaviour on stage is often the reason for homophobic attacks. What would you say to homophobes here in Poland?
V: Fuck them!!!
T: Fuck them!
E: Fuck them, fuck them! (laughing)
D: Maybe not so vulgar…..
T: Fuck them!
D: For sure they should open up more, get rid of prejudices. Make a step forward. Free themselves from the old way of thinking. Let the others live however they want.
I: You debuted in 2017 with EP ‘Chosen’ with two of your own songs and few covers. Even tho you were so young, you already came off as mature musicians with a set style…
V: Thanks, but I don’t think so (laugh).
D: I don’t think we would agree with that.
E: We wouldn’t agree with that, definitely.
V: My bass playing skills definitely left much to be desired.
D: 'Chosen’ definitely has its advantages, but… we were still looking for our sound back then. That EP is so much more different than our other albums. But it is a part of our career, our journey, and we don’t regret anything that has to do with it. We had a lot of fun recording it and… its something we did in the past and we’re happy that people loved it.
V: Still love it!
D: Exactly, still love it. Even tho we changed so much since then.
V: The most important and coolest thing about that EP is that even tho we were really young and our skills weren’t as good, you can still hear that we already had charisma and knew what we wanted. And even tho most of the EP consists of known songs, we changed them, played them in our own way, our own style. And that’s really cool because it shows us as a band with their own personality. Of course, now that we listen to that EP, we have lot to complain about…
D: We would do the songs much better.
V: But we like the attitude we already had back then. Even tho we were so young.
E: Our sound really changed since then, but you need to remember that when we we’re recording it, it was already a huge accomplishment for us.
D: That’s true.
I: On ‘Chosen’ Damiano sung in english. On your first album, ‘Il ballo della vita’ from 2018, you had songs in italian as well. Did your songs get more personal because of that?
D: I wouldn’t say that. We started writing songs in italian out of necessity. If you’re an Italian artist and want to reach Italian audience, you need, you have to sing in italian, because not a lot of people speak english there. Now it’s different, we managed to reach international audience, so we can make more songs in english. But we won’t resign from italian, we like to write in italian as well.
I: While recording ‘Il ballo della vita’ you made documentary ‘This Is Maneskin’…
E: They will never forget it! (laugh)
I: You can see there, that during that time you argued a lot.
D: We were young!
I: Did the conflicts threaten your band’s future?
D: No! We were just starting out…
V: Conflicts were inevitable. We were very young and suddenly tabloids were writing about us. And recording an album required a lot of work. And we never experienced that before, we had issues dealing with work in the studio. Because creating and recording together isn’t easy. You need to make many decisions, everyone has their own opinion. Now we’re more mature, we know how to deal with those situations. We can discuss with each other in a constructive way. We were much more childish back then and yeah, we fought sometimes. But even then nothing happened that could threaten our band.
I: ‘Il ballo della vita’ is a concept album of sorts. You have there Marlena, who, like you said, is personification of the concern a lot of you have – that we’re not able to be yourself…
D: The album was supposed to share a message to our fans. We wanted to tell them how important for us is the freedom to be yourself. The ability to love someone, that was chosen by our heart. Freedom to wear the clothes we like. Et cetera, et cetera… We realized that the album would speak to people more, and will be easier to understand, if we gave that idea a name. Of course it’s an idea that we still share to this day, just maybe a bit differently.
I: Your last album, ‘Teatro D’Ira Vol. 1’, you recorded live in studio. Did the way you worked on it was much different from the way you recorded ‘Il ballo della vita’?
D: Oh yeah! It definitely took us less time!
V: Definitely much faster. It was very exciting. We wanted to keep in studio the energy we have when we play concerts, which meant playing together. Which is of course much more difficult than recording separately. But we told to ourselves: let it be, we should at least try. And we loved the result.
D: You know, at first you work on the material in rehearsal room. And you’re full of energy. But then you come into recording studio, where you divide the song into parts, and you loose that power, that magic. So we realized that we should change the way we work, so we could keep the emotions from rehearsals.
I: ‘Teatro D’Ira Vol. 1’ is another concept album. You said its all about the rage, that plays the role of catharsis sometimes. Can you say something more about it?
V: Anger is mostly seen as something negative. And we think that classifying emotions as positive or negative is stupid. Especially in art. When you’re creating, anger can make you give more from yourself, say more. And that’s what our album is about, talking about the world of theatre. We show that something that’s seen as bad, can – especially in the world of art – become something good. And those songs, that are so full of rage, can bring relief to our listeners, which only confirms what I’m trying to say.
I: In the lyrics to 'In nome del padre’ and ‘Vent’anni’ you’re talking about mistakes you made in the past…
D: They are very different tracks, even if they seem to talk about the same topic. Vent’anni is all about our age, because we think it’s a very special moment in your life: you become an adult, but you’re still too young to be considered as such, and they don’t treat you seriously. We wanted to share that with our fans, because maybe they think the same. And In nome del padre is about the battle we had to fight, the mistakes we had to make, to get where we are today. Of course we’re still young, we still make mistakes. But I’m singing about the mistakes from the past, because they made us the way we are today. And I’m saying: don’t be afraid to make mistakes, because they are a part of your journey, your life. What’s important is how you react to those mistakes.
E: It’s not a mistake to make mistakes.
I: The next album, continuation of ‘Teatro D’Ira Vol. 1’ – is it already recorded?
D: No, no.
V: Indeed, our next album will be continuation of ‘Teatro D’Ira Vol. 1’, but we’re still working on it. We don’t want to record it in a hurry, we want to take our time making it.
D: We have a lot of songs already, but we want to have plenty to choose from. We want the album to have the most representative songs, the best ones.

Вчера приносили фотки самой публикации, без перевода.
Да, этот ответ был очень живенький

Анон · 2021-07-29 09:38:05

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▼Рагацци вчера в Риме⬍

Фан-акки не всегда любят подписывать источники, но я выяснила интересное.
Фото запостил Дэвид Мэсси. Дядька крутой и крайне влиятельный. На данный момент он возглавляет американскую дочку Сони Arista Records
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Дочка не самая "громкая" на данный момент, по-настоящему больших актуальных артистов у них вроде бы нет. В анамнезе Уитни Хьюстон, Тони Брэкстон и пр. В 2018 Мэсси поставили во главу лейбла с целью его "перезапустить", потому что он уже достаточно долго никаких супер-крутых новых артистов не представляет.

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Несмотря на то, что он сейчас глава лейбла, у него за спиной и звукорежиссерская работа, и музыкальным менеджером он тоже был. Есть специальный индустрийный таблойд HDD, так вот он считает Мэсси одной из самых влиятельных фигур индустрии на данный момент, но такой, подковерной, типа серого кардинала (в отличие от Роба Стингера, главы Сони). Быстрый чес по его инсте показывает, что две недели назад он начал постить ребят, а еще у Arista был пост про выхода клипа ребят. Даже внутри одного монстролейбла не принято анонсировать выходы клипов артистов других дочек. Т.е. если артист подписан на RCA, к примеру, то его не будет рекламировать Syco. Теперь вот личная встреча с ребятами в Риме, да еще и фотографиями. Скорее всего ребят в штатах будет представлять Arista. Возможно, громкий перезапуск лейбла планируют сделать с помощью ребят.

Фигассе. Чот волнуюсь...
Здесь под его постом какой-то чувак с синей галочкой посиавил хэштег #masseydoesitagain - Мэсси опять это делает
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Анон · 2021-07-29 09:40:33

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Не знаю, притаскивали или нет. Инью для польского Teraz Rock с переводом на английский.
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A well know polish magazine about rock music 'Teraz Rock’ (Now Rock) had an interview with Måneskin, and since one of the polish fans on FB shared pictures of the magazine, I decided to translate the interview, because I loved some of the stuff they said there! :D
As always, the whole thing is under read more.
Maneskin is not only ‘Zitti e buoni’ and their winning performance in Rotterdam during the recent finale of Eurovision Song Contest. Italian band fits perfectly into the trend of rock restorers, and at the same time fights with the mental narrowness, prejudices and homophobia. On August 19th they will play In Park Kolibki In Gdynia.
I: You started by playing on the streets of Rome…
V: Unfortunately, there is not a lot of possibilities to debut in Rome. Rome is lacking the appropriate places, there are almost no rock shows. So we couldn’t find a place where we could show ourselves to the people. So we decided to play on the streets to gain the following, the listeners. We did that for good few months. And we had a lot of fun doing that. We think it really helped us, too. Because when you play on the streets, you don’t play for someone who came to listen to you. You need to attract people’s attention. So it was a great lesson on stage skills, to keep the attention. And we played many hours each day, so we also evolved as musicians, as a band.
I: Is it true that you had issues with police?
V, D, T, E: Yes, that’s true!! (laugh)
D: It was all because of this old lady, that lived on the first floor, near the place where we used to play. She snitched on us! And sometimes police came and tried to get us to leave.
I: They didn’t arrest you?
D: No, it wasn’t that bad.
V: We were 16 back then. We just went all ‘We swear we won’t do it again!’ (laugh). We hid somewhere for 10 minutes….
D: Went around the block….
V: And played again (laugh).
I: You admited that at first you were shy. How did it happen that you gained so much self-confidence? Do you think one has to be self-confident if they want to show the world that they have something to say in music, in art?
V: It is important, but its more about feeling good with yourself and having fun doing what you do, rather than confronting the world. I think that if you lack confidence, you can’t fully enjoy creating, because you keep thinking ‘What the other will think about it?’. But everyone has to go through this phase. In my opinion, self-confidence is not something you’re born with. Everyone has the moments of hesitation and doubt. I have them too, still. And I think that’s perfectly normal. But you need to learn to appreciate yourself, accept yourself the way you are, because you can’t run away from yourself. We have whole life with ourselves, until the day we die (laugh).
I: Damiano, in one of the interviews you said ‘What we say, can change someone way of thinking’. Do you want to influence your audience? Artist like Chuck Berry or AC/DC just had fun on stage.
D: We also have fun on stage. But now, when we’re well known, we can get to many people, especially young ones. And there’s a chance, that if we say something positive to them, we could help them with their problems, that they can’t fight on their own. For example – like Vic said – we can help them gain more self-confidence and make them feel safer in the world around them. I’ll say this: if as a musician you have something to share with others, do it. But if you just want to have fun playing, that’s OK too.
T: Exactly.
I: Your behaviour on stage is often the reason for homophobic attacks. What would you say to homophobes here in Poland?
V: Fuck them!!!
T: Fuck them!
E: Fuck them, fuck them! (laughing)
D: Maybe not so vulgar…..
T: Fuck them!
D: For sure they should open up more, get rid of prejudices. Make a step forward. Free themselves from the old way of thinking. Let the others live however they want.
I: You debuted in 2017 with EP ‘Chosen’ with two of your own songs and few covers. Even tho you were so young, you already came off as mature musicians with a set style…
V: Thanks, but I don’t think so (laugh).
D: I don’t think we would agree with that.
E: We wouldn’t agree with that, definitely.
V: My bass playing skills definitely left much to be desired.
D: 'Chosen’ definitely has its advantages, but… we were still looking for our sound back then. That EP is so much more different than our other albums. But it is a part of our career, our journey, and we don’t regret anything that has to do with it. We had a lot of fun recording it and… its something we did in the past and we’re happy that people loved it.
V: Still love it!
D: Exactly, still love it. Even tho we changed so much since then.
V: The most important and coolest thing about that EP is that even tho we were really young and our skills weren’t as good, you can still hear that we already had charisma and knew what we wanted. And even tho most of the EP consists of known songs, we changed them, played them in our own way, our own style. And that’s really cool because it shows us as a band with their own personality. Of course, now that we listen to that EP, we have lot to complain about…
D: We would do the songs much better.
V: But we like the attitude we already had back then. Even tho we were so young.
E: Our sound really changed since then, but you need to remember that when we we’re recording it, it was already a huge accomplishment for us.
D: That’s true.
I: On ‘Chosen’ Damiano sung in english. On your first album, ‘Il ballo della vita’ from 2018, you had songs in italian as well. Did your songs get more personal because of that?
D: I wouldn’t say that. We started writing songs in italian out of necessity. If you’re an Italian artist and want to reach Italian audience, you need, you have to sing in italian, because not a lot of people speak english there. Now it’s different, we managed to reach international audience, so we can make more songs in english. But we won’t resign from italian, we like to write in italian as well.
I: While recording ‘Il ballo della vita’ you made documentary ‘This Is Maneskin’…
E: They will never forget it! (laugh)
I: You can see there, that during that time you argued a lot.
D: We were young!
I: Did the conflicts threaten your band’s future?
D: No! We were just starting out…
V: Conflicts were inevitable. We were very young and suddenly tabloids were writing about us. And recording an album required a lot of work. And we never experienced that before, we had issues dealing with work in the studio. Because creating and recording together isn’t easy. You need to make many decisions, everyone has their own opinion. Now we’re more mature, we know how to deal with those situations. We can discuss with each other in a constructive way. We were much more childish back then and yeah, we fought sometimes. But even then nothing happened that could threaten our band.
I: ‘Il ballo della vita’ is a concept album of sorts. You have there Marlena, who, like you said, is personification of the concern a lot of you have – that we’re not able to be yourself…
D: The album was supposed to share a message to our fans. We wanted to tell them how important for us is the freedom to be yourself. The ability to love someone, that was chosen by our heart. Freedom to wear the clothes we like. Et cetera, et cetera… We realized that the album would speak to people more, and will be easier to understand, if we gave that idea a name. Of course it’s an idea that we still share to this day, just maybe a bit differently.
I: Your last album, ‘Teatro D’Ira Vol. 1’, you recorded live in studio. Did the way you worked on it was much different from the way you recorded ‘Il ballo della vita’?
D: Oh yeah! It definitely took us less time!
V: Definitely much faster. It was very exciting. We wanted to keep in studio the energy we have when we play concerts, which meant playing together. Which is of course much more difficult than recording separately. But we told to ourselves: let it be, we should at least try. And we loved the result.
D: You know, at first you work on the material in rehearsal room. And you’re full of energy. But then you come into recording studio, where you divide the song into parts, and you loose that power, that magic. So we realized that we should change the way we work, so we could keep the emotions from rehearsals.
I: ‘Teatro D’Ira Vol. 1’ is another concept album. You said its all about the rage, that plays the role of catharsis sometimes. Can you say something more about it?
V: Anger is mostly seen as something negative. And we think that classifying emotions as positive or negative is stupid. Especially in art. When you’re creating, anger can make you give more from yourself, say more. And that’s what our album is about, talking about the world of theatre. We show that something that’s seen as bad, can – especially in the world of art – become something good. And those songs, that are so full of rage, can bring relief to our listeners, which only confirms what I’m trying to say.
I: In the lyrics to 'In nome del padre’ and ‘Vent’anni’ you’re talking about mistakes you made in the past…
D: They are very different tracks, even if they seem to talk about the same topic. Vent’anni is all about our age, because we think it’s a very special moment in your life: you become an adult, but you’re still too young to be considered as such, and they don’t treat you seriously. We wanted to share that with our fans, because maybe they think the same. And In nome del padre is about the battle we had to fight, the mistakes we had to make, to get where we are today. Of course we’re still young, we still make mistakes. But I’m singing about the mistakes from the past, because they made us the way we are today. And I’m saying: don’t be afraid to make mistakes, because they are a part of your journey, your life. What’s important is how you react to those mistakes.
E: It’s not a mistake to make mistakes.
I: The next album, continuation of ‘Teatro D’Ira Vol. 1’ – is it already recorded?
D: No, no.
V: Indeed, our next album will be continuation of ‘Teatro D’Ira Vol. 1’, but we’re still working on it. We don’t want to record it in a hurry, we want to take our time making it.
D: We have a lot of songs already, but we want to have plenty to choose from. We want the album to have the most representative songs, the best ones.

Спасибо! Интересное интервью, хоть что-то новое без вечного жевания "как вы встретились" и "нюхали ли вы на самом деле кокс в прямом эфире"))))
"Совершать ошибки - не ошибка" - в цитатник :heart:

Анон · 2021-07-29 09:51:21

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Фигассе. Чот волнуюсь...
Здесь под его постом какой-то чувак с синей галочкой посиавил хэштег #masseydoesitagain - Мэсси опять это делает

Если интересно мое субъективное мнение, то Мэсси - это неплохо.

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Анон · 2021-07-29 09:58:57

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Фигассе. Чот волнуюсь...
Здесь под его постом какой-то чувак с синей галочкой посиавил хэштег #masseydoesitagain - Мэсси опять это делает
Если интересно мое субъективное мнение, то Мэсси - это неплохо.
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Он не замешан в каких-то скандалах (в отличие от Чарли Уолка с вот этим комментом))), он относительно молод, у него не такой косный взгляд как у мастодонтов индустрии. А еще у него интересная история - его мать была первой в истории известным музыкальным менеджером-женщиной и вполне успешной.
Если Ариста сделает максимальную ставку на Монескинов с надеждой на возрождение лейбла, они будут с ребят пылинки сдувать, а не выкручивать яйца. Это то, о чем я писала чуть раньше: монстролейбл не знает, что делать с ребятами, поэтому им нужен совсем новый подход, чтобы не завалить все и не проебать группу после первого оконченного контракта. Так что кто-то типа Мэсси может быть отличным выходом, как и нулевой менеджмент. Мэсси кстати и с менеджментом может помочь, потому что у него есть опыт.

Ты меня успокоил) Так-то для меня вся эта тема - лес густой.

Анон · 2021-07-29 09:59:58

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Фигассе. Чот волнуюсь...
Здесь под его постом какой-то чувак с синей галочкой посиавил хэштег #masseydoesitagain - Мэсси опять это делает
Если интересно мое субъективное мнение, то Мэсси - это неплохо.
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Он не замешан в каких-то скандалах (в отличие от Чарли Уолка с вот этим комментом))), он относительно молод, у него не такой косный взгляд как у мастодонтов индустрии. А еще у него интересная история - его мать была первой в истории известным музыкальным менеджером-женщиной и вполне успешной.
Если Ариста сделает максимальную ставку на Монескинов с надеждой на возрождение лейбла, они будут с ребят пылинки сдувать, а не выкручивать яйца. Это то, о чем я писала чуть раньше: монстролейбл не знает, что делать с ребятами, поэтому им нужен совсем новый подход, чтобы не завалить все и не проебать группу после первого оконченного контракта. Так что кто-то типа Мэсси может быть отличным выходом, как и нулевой менеджмент. Мэсси кстати и с менеджментом может помочь, потому что у него есть опыт.

Держим кулачки....
Спасибо за инфо и пояснения! :iloveyou:

Анон · 2021-07-29 10:01:39

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Фан-акки не всегда любят подписывать источники, но я выяснила интересное.
Фото запостил Дэвид Мэсси. Дядька крутой и крайне влиятельный. На данный момент он возглавляет американскую дочку Сони Arista Records
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Дочка не самая "громкая" на данный момент, по-настоящему больших актуальных артистов у них вроде бы нет. В анамнезе Уитни Хьюстон, Тони Брэкстон и пр. В 2018 Мэсси поставили во главу лейбла с целью его "перезапустить", потому что он уже достаточно долго никаких супер-крутых новых артистов не представляет.
Несмотря на то, что он сейчас глава лейбла, у него за спиной и звукорежиссерская работа, и музыкальным менеджером он тоже был. Есть специальный индустрийный таблойд HDD, так вот он считает Мэсси одной из самых влиятельных фигур индустрии на данный момент, но такой, подковерной, типа серого кардинала (в отличие от Роба Стингера, главы Сони). Быстрый чес по его инсте показывает, что две недели назад он начал постить ребят, а еще у Arista был пост про выхода клипа ребят. Даже внутри одного монстролейбла не принято анонсировать выходы клипов артистов других дочек. Т.е. если артист подписан на RCA, к примеру, то его не будет рекламировать Syco. Теперь вот личная встреча с ребятами в Риме, да еще и фотографиями. Скорее всего ребят в штатах будет представлять Arista. Возможно, громкий перезапуск лейбла планируют сделать с помощью ребят.

О как! Интересно!

Анон · 2021-07-29 10:02:10

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Не знаю, притаскивали или нет. Инью для польского Teraz Rock с переводом на английский.
Любимая цитата:
I: Your behaviour on stage is often the reason for homophobic attacks. What would you say to homophobes here in Poland?
V: Fuck them!!!
T: Fuck them!
E: Fuck them, fuck them! (laughing)
D: Maybe not so vulgar…..
T: Fuck them!
D: For sure they should open up more, get rid of prejudices. Make a step forward. Free themselves from the old way of thinking. Let the others live however they want.
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A well know polish magazine about rock music 'Teraz Rock’ (Now Rock) had an interview with Måneskin, and since one of the polish fans on FB shared pictures of the magazine, I decided to translate the interview, because I loved some of the stuff they said there! :D
As always, the whole thing is under read more.
Maneskin is not only ‘Zitti e buoni’ and their winning performance in Rotterdam during the recent finale of Eurovision Song Contest. Italian band fits perfectly into the trend of rock restorers, and at the same time fights with the mental narrowness, prejudices and homophobia. On August 19th they will play In Park Kolibki In Gdynia.
I: You started by playing on the streets of Rome…
V: Unfortunately, there is not a lot of possibilities to debut in Rome. Rome is lacking the appropriate places, there are almost no rock shows. So we couldn’t find a place where we could show ourselves to the people. So we decided to play on the streets to gain the following, the listeners. We did that for good few months. And we had a lot of fun doing that. We think it really helped us, too. Because when you play on the streets, you don’t play for someone who came to listen to you. You need to attract people’s attention. So it was a great lesson on stage skills, to keep the attention. And we played many hours each day, so we also evolved as musicians, as a band.
I: Is it true that you had issues with police?
V, D, T, E: Yes, that’s true!! (laugh)
D: It was all because of this old lady, that lived on the first floor, near the place where we used to play. She snitched on us! And sometimes police came and tried to get us to leave.
I: They didn’t arrest you?
D: No, it wasn’t that bad.
V: We were 16 back then. We just went all ‘We swear we won’t do it again!’ (laugh). We hid somewhere for 10 minutes….
D: Went around the block….
V: And played again (laugh).
I: You admited that at first you were shy. How did it happen that you gained so much self-confidence? Do you think one has to be self-confident if they want to show the world that they have something to say in music, in art?
V: It is important, but its more about feeling good with yourself and having fun doing what you do, rather than confronting the world. I think that if you lack confidence, you can’t fully enjoy creating, because you keep thinking ‘What the other will think about it?’. But everyone has to go through this phase. In my opinion, self-confidence is not something you’re born with. Everyone has the moments of hesitation and doubt. I have them too, still. And I think that’s perfectly normal. But you need to learn to appreciate yourself, accept yourself the way you are, because you can’t run away from yourself. We have whole life with ourselves, until the day we die (laugh).
I: Damiano, in one of the interviews you said ‘What we say, can change someone way of thinking’. Do you want to influence your audience? Artist like Chuck Berry or AC/DC just had fun on stage.
D: We also have fun on stage. But now, when we’re well known, we can get to many people, especially young ones. And there’s a chance, that if we say something positive to them, we could help them with their problems, that they can’t fight on their own. For example – like Vic said – we can help them gain more self-confidence and make them feel safer in the world around them. I’ll say this: if as a musician you have something to share with others, do it. But if you just want to have fun playing, that’s OK too.
T: Exactly.
I: Your behaviour on stage is often the reason for homophobic attacks. What would you say to homophobes here in Poland?
V: Fuck them!!!
T: Fuck them!
E: Fuck them, fuck them! (laughing)
D: Maybe not so vulgar…..
T: Fuck them!
D: For sure they should open up more, get rid of prejudices. Make a step forward. Free themselves from the old way of thinking. Let the others live however they want.
I: You debuted in 2017 with EP ‘Chosen’ with two of your own songs and few covers. Even tho you were so young, you already came off as mature musicians with a set style…
V: Thanks, but I don’t think so (laugh).
D: I don’t think we would agree with that.
E: We wouldn’t agree with that, definitely.
V: My bass playing skills definitely left much to be desired.
D: 'Chosen’ definitely has its advantages, but… we were still looking for our sound back then. That EP is so much more different than our other albums. But it is a part of our career, our journey, and we don’t regret anything that has to do with it. We had a lot of fun recording it and… its something we did in the past and we’re happy that people loved it.
V: Still love it!
D: Exactly, still love it. Even tho we changed so much since then.
V: The most important and coolest thing about that EP is that even tho we were really young and our skills weren’t as good, you can still hear that we already had charisma and knew what we wanted. And even tho most of the EP consists of known songs, we changed them, played them in our own way, our own style. And that’s really cool because it shows us as a band with their own personality. Of course, now that we listen to that EP, we have lot to complain about…
D: We would do the songs much better.
V: But we like the attitude we already had back then. Even tho we were so young.
E: Our sound really changed since then, but you need to remember that when we we’re recording it, it was already a huge accomplishment for us.
D: That’s true.
I: On ‘Chosen’ Damiano sung in english. On your first album, ‘Il ballo della vita’ from 2018, you had songs in italian as well. Did your songs get more personal because of that?
D: I wouldn’t say that. We started writing songs in italian out of necessity. If you’re an Italian artist and want to reach Italian audience, you need, you have to sing in italian, because not a lot of people speak english there. Now it’s different, we managed to reach international audience, so we can make more songs in english. But we won’t resign from italian, we like to write in italian as well.
I: While recording ‘Il ballo della vita’ you made documentary ‘This Is Maneskin’…
E: They will never forget it! (laugh)
I: You can see there, that during that time you argued a lot.
D: We were young!
I: Did the conflicts threaten your band’s future?
D: No! We were just starting out…
V: Conflicts were inevitable. We were very young and suddenly tabloids were writing about us. And recording an album required a lot of work. And we never experienced that before, we had issues dealing with work in the studio. Because creating and recording together isn’t easy. You need to make many decisions, everyone has their own opinion. Now we’re more mature, we know how to deal with those situations. We can discuss with each other in a constructive way. We were much more childish back then and yeah, we fought sometimes. But even then nothing happened that could threaten our band.
I: ‘Il ballo della vita’ is a concept album of sorts. You have there Marlena, who, like you said, is personification of the concern a lot of you have – that we’re not able to be yourself…
D: The album was supposed to share a message to our fans. We wanted to tell them how important for us is the freedom to be yourself. The ability to love someone, that was chosen by our heart. Freedom to wear the clothes we like. Et cetera, et cetera… We realized that the album would speak to people more, and will be easier to understand, if we gave that idea a name. Of course it’s an idea that we still share to this day, just maybe a bit differently.
I: Your last album, ‘Teatro D’Ira Vol. 1’, you recorded live in studio. Did the way you worked on it was much different from the way you recorded ‘Il ballo della vita’?
D: Oh yeah! It definitely took us less time!
V: Definitely much faster. It was very exciting. We wanted to keep in studio the energy we have when we play concerts, which meant playing together. Which is of course much more difficult than recording separately. But we told to ourselves: let it be, we should at least try. And we loved the result.
D: You know, at first you work on the material in rehearsal room. And you’re full of energy. But then you come into recording studio, where you divide the song into parts, and you loose that power, that magic. So we realized that we should change the way we work, so we could keep the emotions from rehearsals.
I: ‘Teatro D’Ira Vol. 1’ is another concept album. You said its all about the rage, that plays the role of catharsis sometimes. Can you say something more about it?
V: Anger is mostly seen as something negative. And we think that classifying emotions as positive or negative is stupid. Especially in art. When you’re creating, anger can make you give more from yourself, say more. And that’s what our album is about, talking about the world of theatre. We show that something that’s seen as bad, can – especially in the world of art – become something good. And those songs, that are so full of rage, can bring relief to our listeners, which only confirms what I’m trying to say.
I: In the lyrics to 'In nome del padre’ and ‘Vent’anni’ you’re talking about mistakes you made in the past…
D: They are very different tracks, even if they seem to talk about the same topic. Vent’anni is all about our age, because we think it’s a very special moment in your life: you become an adult, but you’re still too young to be considered as such, and they don’t treat you seriously. We wanted to share that with our fans, because maybe they think the same. And In nome del padre is about the battle we had to fight, the mistakes we had to make, to get where we are today. Of course we’re still young, we still make mistakes. But I’m singing about the mistakes from the past, because they made us the way we are today. And I’m saying: don’t be afraid to make mistakes, because they are a part of your journey, your life. What’s important is how you react to those mistakes.
E: It’s not a mistake to make mistakes.
I: The next album, continuation of ‘Teatro D’Ira Vol. 1’ – is it already recorded?
D: No, no.
V: Indeed, our next album will be continuation of ‘Teatro D’Ira Vol. 1’, but we’re still working on it. We don’t want to record it in a hurry, we want to take our time making it.
D: We have a lot of songs already, but we want to have plenty to choose from. We want the album to have the most representative songs, the best ones.

Спасибо!

Анон · 2021-07-29 10:03:28

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Анон пишет:
поедете туда целым отрядом с холиварки
там еще отряд с багини будет)))

Вступаю в оба!!!

Анон · 2021-07-29 10:14:45

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▼Рагацци вчера в Риме⬍

Дами такой расслабленный, без обычных дежурных улыбок, такой чистый релакс.
Вик и Дами - о май гад, Вик, катающая Дами на скутере (или что это там) - моя любимая смена гендерных ролей. Что за ребята, просто чудо :heart:

Анон · 2021-07-29 10:16:11

Статья в Вашингтон пост https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertai … 29826d1fd3

Анон · 2021-07-29 10:42:18

Вношу ссыль #расследования

▼Скрытый текст⬍

Анон · 2021-07-29 11:08:27

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Вношу ссыль #расследования
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https://zimushka-zima.diary.ru/p2208161 … etilis.htm

Ого! Действительно расследование!

Анон · 2021-07-29 11:11:53

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Вношу ссыль #расследования
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https://zimushka-zima.diary.ru/p2208161 … etilis.htm

Готовое досье прямо в досье

Анон · 2021-07-29 11:27:41

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Вношу ссыль #расследования
▼Скрытый текст⬍
https://zimushka-zima.diary.ru/p2208161 … etilis.htm

Выступление на конкурсе "Пульс"

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Инфа о конкурсе в 2016 году:

https://www.soundreef.com/blog/pulse-co … sul-palco/

QUARTI DI FINALE @ Felt Music Club
13 – 20 marzo
10 – 15 – 24 – 29 aprile
SEMIFINALI @ Locanda Atlantide
8 – 15 – 22 maggio
FINALE @ Quirinetta
10 settembre

Анон · 2021-07-29 11:42:21

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Вношу ссыль #расследования
▼Скрытый текст⬍
https://zimushka-zima.diary.ru/p2208161 … etilis.htm
Выступление на конкурсе "Пульс"
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https://youtu.be/77ioxMwFYdY
Инфа о конкурсе в 2016 году:
https://www.soundreef.com/blog/pulse-co … sul-palco/
QUARTI DI FINALE @ Felt Music Club
13 – 20 marzo
10 – 15 – 24 – 29 aprile
SEMIFINALI @ Locanda Atlantide
8 – 15 – 22 maggio
FINALE @ Quirinetta
10 settembre

ну, финал был 17 сентября, если чо.
анон с архивом

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