Måneskin. Всё от Евровидения до рпс-ных фичков

Гималайская · 2020-05-12 19:04:16

Тред о скромной итальянской группе из Рима, которая всего 4 года назад играла на улицах, а потом вдруг проснулась, станцевала у шеста, выиграла Сан-Ремо, Евровидение, покорила весь мир в целом и аноньи сердечки в частности.

▼Все, что вы хотели знать о Måneskin, но боялись искать в стремительно разрастающемся треде⬍

▼инстаграмы, твиттер, сайт, ютуб-канал⬍

▼дни рождения, рост⬍

▼Евровидение, winners performance⬍

▼СанРемо winners performance⬍

▼Официальный ответ Дамиано Давида на официальное заявление организаторов Евровидения о том, что наркотиков в его анализе не обнаружено)⬍

▼Золотой фонд⬍

▼символ Евровидения⬍

▼победные поцелуи с Томасом и Итаном⬍

▼Гифка с шампанским⬍

▼тверк⬍

▼Обнимашки с Сан-Ремо⬍

▼Ковер⬍

▼Дамиано и шпильки, Дамиано и шест⬍

▼общие татушки, промофото ню⬍

▼Наиболее Полная Коллекция Волнующих Анонов Штанов Бусинки⬍

▼Бэст оф⬍

▼Фанфики⬍

Анон, помни - прежде чем спросить, ткни в шапку. Серьезно, ткни, в ней много интересного.

Анон · 2021-06-16 18:43:55

Это был кавер на Black Skinhead - Kanye West

Анон · 2021-06-16 18:45:38

Анон пишет:

Кому-то еще показалось, что у Дамиано проблемы с голосом? Мне прислышалось, что он пару раз сильно мимо нот мазал

ага, было такое

Анон · 2021-06-16 18:46:21

Дамиано просто вчера чуть-чуть перетрудился, облизывая чужие уши

Анон · 2021-06-16 18:46:29

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Это был кавер на Black Skinhead - Kanye West

О, спасибо) :love: мне понравилось в их исполнении)

Анон · 2021-06-16 18:48:25

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Кому-то еще показалось, что у Дамиано проблемы с голосом? Мне прислышалось, что он пару раз сильно мимо нот мазал

Было, то ли на Страхе темноты, то ли на Коралине следом. Но он совсем не отдыхал между, а обе песни очень требовательные вокально. Хотя я бы не сказала, что сильно, немного съехал.

Анон · 2021-06-16 18:49:05

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Дамиано просто вчера чуть-чуть перетрудился, облизывая чужие уши

:lol: анон тоже про это в первую очередь подумал)

Анон · 2021-06-16 18:50:27

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Кому-то еще показалось, что у Дамиано проблемы с голосом? Мне прислышалось, что он пару раз сильно мимо нот мазал
Было, то ли на Страхе темноты, то ли на Коралине следом. Но он совсем не отдыхал между, а обе песни очень требовательные вокально. Хотя я бы не сказала, что сильно, немного съехал.

И в For you love тоже было.

Анон · 2021-06-16 18:52:35

Статья NYTimes
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/arts … tw-nytimes

▼фото⬍

Анон · 2021-06-16 18:56:52

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Статья NYTimes
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/arts … tw-nytimes
▼фото⬍

Она платная, похоже( фотки прикольные.

Анон · 2021-06-16 18:57:16

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Статья NYTimes

Классные фотки! На лужайке у Итана такие ноги :love:

Анон · 2021-06-16 19:00:00

Вот это Итан цаца, конечно, фотка отпад. То есть, все фотки хорошие - теплые, солнечные, но Итан добил)

Анон · 2021-06-16 19:01:31

Анон пишет:

Она платная, похоже( фотки прикольные.

Анон, можно авторизоваться через гугл, меня пустило.

▼текст статьи⬍

ROME — When the rock group Maneskin won this year’s Eurovision Song Contest, it was little known outside Italy. Then the competition catapulted the band in front of 180 million viewers, and propelled its winning song “Zitti e Buoni,” or “Shut Up and Behave,” into Spotify’s global Top 10, a first for an Italian band.

As of Wednesday, the song had been streamed on Spotify more than 100 million times. With nearly 18 million listeners in the last month, Maneskin was performing better on the streaming service in the same period than Foo Fighters or Kings of Leon.

Eurovision acts typically disappear from the spotlight as soon as the competition wraps, yet Maneskin’s members are hoping to build upon their existing fame here and newly won international interest to become a rare long-term Eurovision success story.

A post-curtain controversy that dogged the group last month has only increased the band’s notoriety. On the night of the Eurovision victory, rumors spread on social media after a clip from the broadcast went viral, showing the lead singer, Damiano David, hunched over a table backstage. At a news conference later that evening, a Swedish journalist asked if David had been sniffing cocaine on live TV, and the singer denied any wrongdoing.

David took a drug test, which came back negative. The European Broadcasting Union issued a statement saying that “no drug use took place” and that it “considered the matter closed.”
So it’s been quite a world-stage debut for a foursome whose combined ages add up to just 83. (David is 22; Victoria De Angelis, the bassist, is 21; and the guitarist Thomas Raggi and the drummer Ethan Torchio are 20.)

“For us,” De Angelis said in a recent interview, “music is passion, fun, something that lets us blow off steam” — no surprise to anyone who has seen Maneskin perform live. The band is a high-octane powerhouse of onstage charisma and youthful energy.
One Italian music critic compared Maneskin — which means moonlight in Danish and is pronounced “moan-EH-skin” — to the Energizer Bunny. That may in part explain why “Zitti e Buoni” has transcended what could have been an insurmountable linguistic barrier (though there is already a cover version in Finnish).
The song celebrates individuality and marching to the beat of one’s drum, or guitar riff. The refrain repeats: “We’re out of our minds, but we’re different from them.”
With its carefully curated, stylish androgynous nonchalance — accessorized with high heels, black nail polish and smoky eyes — Maneskin breaks down gender barriers and champions self-expression.

The band was formed in 2015. David, De Angelis and Raggi knew each other from middle school in Rome. Torchio, whose family lives just outside the city, joined the group after responding to an ad in a Facebook group called “Musicians Wanted (Rome).”

There weren’t many venues here for fledgling rock bands, so they busked on the street, played in high schools and in restaurants “where you were expected to bring your own paying public,” David recalled. Small-time battle of the band competitions “ensured that at least we’d be playing front of an audience,” he added.
“These are the kinds of dynamics that toughen you up,” said Torchio.
After a couple of years of struggling to find gigs, the band went on the 2017 Italian edition of the talent show “The X Factor.”

Anna Curia, 24, said “it was love at first sight” when she saw the group's audition song on the program; a few weeks later, she founded the group’s official fan club. “From the first, they had a distinct style and sound,” she said. Other fan clubs soon followed follow. There’s even one, called Mammeskin, for women of a certain age.

The “X Factor” stint also grabbed the attention of Veronica Etro, of the fashion brand Etro. “They had something,” said Etro, who is the brand’s creative director for the women’s collections. “I was very bewitched.”

The fashion house reached out to the group and began dressing its members for album covers and videos. The collaboration evolved into providing the outfits for Eurovision, where the group's studded laminated red leather looks made you “think Jimi Hendrix-meets-‘Velvet Goldmine,’” wrote Vanessa Friedman in The New York Times.

“What I love is the way that they mix clothes for women and men,” said Etro in a telephone interview. “There is something very revolutionary about them, the way they don’t have any fear and they have fun with clothes.”
Manuel Agnelli, who was one of the “X Factor” judges in 2107, took Maneskin under his wing. At first, its members weren’t musically mature, he said, “but I saw in them characteristics that can’t be taught, it’s something you’re born with, it’s personality.”
“Their image is a big part of who they are, their sexuality, their charisma, their bodies. It’s part of rock, it’s part of performance,” said Agnelli.

Maneskin didn’t win “The X Factor,” coming second to Lorenzo Licitra, a tenor whose style is more in sync with the Italian penchant for big melodic ballads. Yet the program proved to be a springboard to greater things.

“They are a television phenomenon,” said Andrea Andrei, a journalist with the Rome daily newspaper Il Messaggero. “Without ‘The X Factor’ and the machine behind it that churns out products ready for mainstream success, Maneskin would have struggled for a lot longer, like other rock bands have.”

The real surprise, for many Italian commentators, was Maneskin’s win last March at the Sanremo Festival of Italian Song, the national event that finds Italy’s Eurovision act. Until a few years ago, Sanremo had mostly attracted Italians whose musical heyday predated Woodstock, but recent editions have reached out to younger audiences by involving the winners of talent shows like “The X-Factor.”
“Nothing could be further from rock than Sanremo,” said Massimo Cotto, an Italian music journalist and radio D.J.

So there, too, Maneskin broke ground. “Italy has never had an idyllic relationship with rock music, it never became mainstream,” said Andrei. “Maneskin’s win was unexpected, because they are a real rock band.”
During the interview, David soundly rejected the accusations that he was caught on camera using drugs at Eurovision, complaining that the speculation had overshadowed their win.

The allegations were both infantile and underhanded, he said. And they came to nothing, because drug tests came up negative. “We know we are clean. We have nothing to hide,” he said.

Allegations aside, there have been some changes since the Eurovision win.

Merchandise associated with the band’s most recent album sold out in minutes. It lent its music to a Pepsi commercial. And earlier this month, the band parted ways with Marta Donà, its manager since 2017. Some newspapers here wondered whether an Italian management agency had begun to feel too tight for Maneskin’s international aspirations, and the name of Simon Cowell, the mastermind behind “The X-Factor,” came up as a possible successor. The group has not announced who will replace Donà.
Agnelli, the Italian “X-Factor” judge, offered the quartet some advice for building on its current momentum: Tour as much as possible, get experience under their belts and continue to be themselves.
“It’s their greatest strength,” he said.

Анон · 2021-06-16 19:05:09

Ох, кто угодно, только не Саймон Коуэлл. Нахуй им надо с этим ублюдком связываться. Надеюсь, их сотрудничества никогда не случится.

Анон · 2021-06-16 19:06:31

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Статья NYTimes
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/arts … tw-nytimes
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Зайки какие солнечные :sadcat:

Анон · 2021-06-16 19:08:54

there is already a cover version in Finnish

Знаем мы этот кавер :lol:

Анон · 2021-06-16 19:12:43

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Она платная, похоже( фотки прикольные.
Анон, можно авторизоваться через гугл, меня пустило.
▼текст статьи⬍
ROME — When the rock group Maneskin won this year’s Eurovision Song Contest, it was little known outside Italy. Then the competition catapulted the band in front of 180 million viewers, and propelled its winning song “Zitti e Buoni,” or “Shut Up and Behave,” into Spotify’s global Top 10, a first for an Italian band.
As of Wednesday, the song had been streamed on Spotify more than 100 million times. With nearly 18 million listeners in the last month, Maneskin was performing better on the streaming service in the same period than Foo Fighters or Kings of Leon.
Eurovision acts typically disappear from the spotlight as soon as the competition wraps, yet Maneskin’s members are hoping to build upon their existing fame here and newly won international interest to become a rare long-term Eurovision success story.
A post-curtain controversy that dogged the group last month has only increased the band’s notoriety. On the night of the Eurovision victory, rumors spread on social media after a clip from the broadcast went viral, showing the lead singer, Damiano David, hunched over a table backstage. At a news conference later that evening, a Swedish journalist asked if David had been sniffing cocaine on live TV, and the singer denied any wrongdoing.

David took a drug test, which came back negative. The European Broadcasting Union issued a statement saying that “no drug use took place” and that it “considered the matter closed.”
So it’s been quite a world-stage debut for a foursome whose combined ages add up to just 83. (David is 22; Victoria De Angelis, the bassist, is 21; and the guitarist Thomas Raggi and the drummer Ethan Torchio are 20.)
“For us,” De Angelis said in a recent interview, “music is passion, fun, something that lets us blow off steam” — no surprise to anyone who has seen Maneskin perform live. The band is a high-octane powerhouse of onstage charisma and youthful energy.
One Italian music critic compared Maneskin — which means moonlight in Danish and is pronounced “moan-EH-skin” — to the Energizer Bunny. That may in part explain why “Zitti e Buoni” has transcended what could have been an insurmountable linguistic barrier (though there is already a cover version in Finnish).
The song celebrates individuality and marching to the beat of one’s drum, or guitar riff. The refrain repeats: “We’re out of our minds, but we’re different from them.”
With its carefully curated, stylish androgynous nonchalance — accessorized with high heels, black nail polish and smoky eyes — Maneskin breaks down gender barriers and champions self-expression.
The band was formed in 2015. David, De Angelis and Raggi knew each other from middle school in Rome. Torchio, whose family lives just outside the city, joined the group after responding to an ad in a Facebook group called “Musicians Wanted (Rome).”
There weren’t many venues here for fledgling rock bands, so they busked on the street, played in high schools and in restaurants “where you were expected to bring your own paying public,” David recalled. Small-time battle of the band competitions “ensured that at least we’d be playing front of an audience,” he added.
“These are the kinds of dynamics that toughen you up,” said Torchio.
After a couple of years of struggling to find gigs, the band went on the 2017 Italian edition of the talent show “The X Factor.”
Anna Curia, 24, said “it was love at first sight” when she saw the group's audition song on the program; a few weeks later, she founded the group’s official fan club. “From the first, they had a distinct style and sound,” she said. Other fan clubs soon followed follow. There’s even one, called Mammeskin, for women of a certain age.
The “X Factor” stint also grabbed the attention of Veronica Etro, of the fashion brand Etro. “They had something,” said Etro, who is the brand’s creative director for the women’s collections. “I was very bewitched.”
The fashion house reached out to the group and began dressing its members for album covers and videos. The collaboration evolved into providing the outfits for Eurovision, where the group's studded laminated red leather looks made you “think Jimi Hendrix-meets-‘Velvet Goldmine,’” wrote Vanessa Friedman in The New York Times.
“What I love is the way that they mix clothes for women and men,” said Etro in a telephone interview. “There is something very revolutionary about them, the way they don’t have any fear and they have fun with clothes.”
Manuel Agnelli, who was one of the “X Factor” judges in 2107, took Maneskin under his wing. At first, its members weren’t musically mature, he said, “but I saw in them characteristics that can’t be taught, it’s something you’re born with, it’s personality.”
“Their image is a big part of who they are, their sexuality, their charisma, their bodies. It’s part of rock, it’s part of performance,” said Agnelli.
Maneskin didn’t win “The X Factor,” coming second to Lorenzo Licitra, a tenor whose style is more in sync with the Italian penchant for big melodic ballads. Yet the program proved to be a springboard to greater things.
“They are a television phenomenon,” said Andrea Andrei, a journalist with the Rome daily newspaper Il Messaggero. “Without ‘The X Factor’ and the machine behind it that churns out products ready for mainstream success, Maneskin would have struggled for a lot longer, like other rock bands have.”
The real surprise, for many Italian commentators, was Maneskin’s win last March at the Sanremo Festival of Italian Song, the national event that finds Italy’s Eurovision act. Until a few years ago, Sanremo had mostly attracted Italians whose musical heyday predated Woodstock, but recent editions have reached out to younger audiences by involving the winners of talent shows like “The X-Factor.”
“Nothing could be further from rock than Sanremo,” said Massimo Cotto, an Italian music journalist and radio D.J.
So there, too, Maneskin broke ground. “Italy has never had an idyllic relationship with rock music, it never became mainstream,” said Andrei. “Maneskin’s win was unexpected, because they are a real rock band.”
During the interview, David soundly rejected the accusations that he was caught on camera using drugs at Eurovision, complaining that the speculation had overshadowed their win.
The allegations were both infantile and underhanded, he said. And they came to nothing, because drug tests came up negative. “We know we are clean. We have nothing to hide,” he said.
Allegations aside, there have been some changes since the Eurovision win.
Merchandise associated with the band’s most recent album sold out in minutes. It lent its music to a Pepsi commercial. And earlier this month, the band parted ways with Marta Donà, its manager since 2017. Some newspapers here wondered whether an Italian management agency had begun to feel too tight for Maneskin’s international aspirations, and the name of Simon Cowell, the mastermind behind “The X-Factor,” came up as a possible successor. The group has not announced who will replace Donà.
Agnelli, the Italian “X-Factor” judge, offered the quartet some advice for building on its current momentum: Tour as much as possible, get experience under their belts and continue to be themselves.
“It’s their greatest strength,” he said.

Спасибо, анон :heart:
Приятная статья (только Дамиано почему-то все время по фамилии называют). Интересно, кто теперь менеджер и почему его не называют. Надеюсь, ребята знают, что делают.

Анон · 2021-06-16 19:13:18

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there is already a cover version in Finnish
Знаем мы этот кавер

ну так...прикольно

Анон · 2021-06-16 19:13:27

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Ох, кто угодно, только не Саймон Коуэлл. Нахуй им надо с этим ублюдком связываться. Надеюсь, их сотрудничества никогда не случится.

почему, анон?

Анон · 2021-06-16 19:13:34

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Ох, кто угодно, только не Саймон Коуэлл. Нахуй им надо с этим ублюдком связываться. Надеюсь, их сотрудничества никогда не случится.

говорят, что он уже пытался раньше. Хотел сделать что-то типа Х-фактора для групп, дабы собрать новый 1D - группу поющих парней, получается? В таком предложении Манескин не были заинтересованы и сотрудничество не состоялось

Анон · 2021-06-16 19:18:20

Да, свет, кстати, отличный был. В твиттере по тэгу сейчас есть много кусочков лайва, но целиком не попадался.

Анон · 2021-06-16 19:25:09

Здесь в igtv есть 10-минутный кусок, подписанный как часть 2. наверное,часть 1 позже положат https://instagram.com/maneskinofficialf … =copy_link

Анон · 2021-06-16 19:27:50

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анону кажется, что без публики петь очень тяжело, никакой отдачи
Да. Что концерты, что театр работают на контакте со зрителями, эмоциональном прежде всего. А так будто в черную дыру выкладываешься. У них, конечно, был уже такой опыт, но тем не менее. Ну, в врскресенье в Швеции должны быть зрители) И кто-то собирался их у клуба караулить сегодня, может, будут фотки (или нет).

А где можно расписание найти? Куда ребята еще планируют приехать?

Анон · 2021-06-16 19:30:56

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Кому-то еще показалось, что у Дамиано проблемы с голосом? Мне прислышалось, что он пару раз сильно мимо нот мазал
Было, то ли на Страхе темноты, то ли на Коралине следом. Но он совсем не отдыхал между, а обе песни очень требовательные вокально. Хотя я бы не сказала, что сильно, немного съехал.
И в For you love тоже было.

Точно, это в For your love он пару раз немного не доехал до нот. А Коралину просто не совсем в той тональности начал, но когда гитара подключилась, то вернулся куда надо.

Анон · 2021-06-16 19:32:46

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анону кажется, что без публики петь очень тяжело, никакой отдачи
Да. Что концерты, что театр работают на контакте со зрителями, эмоциональном прежде всего. А так будто в черную дыру выкладываешься. У них, конечно, был уже такой опыт, но тем не менее. Ну, в врскресенье в Швеции должны быть зрители) И кто-то собирался их у клуба караулить сегодня, может, будут фотки (или нет).
А где можно расписание найти? Куда ребята еще планируют приехать?

Про Швецию вот только сегодня стало известно. Там какой-то фестиваль, наверное? Или хз что. Тут по ссылке инфа https://twitter.com/ManeskinNews/status … 49792?s=19

А так их расписание с декабря начинается, кмк. Там Италия только. Может, сейчас будет что-то добавляться на поближе.

Отредактировано (2021-06-16 19:33:58)

Анон · 2021-06-16 19:33:21

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почему, анон?

Вообще он не менеджер, странно, что его на замену Марты упомянули. Он раньше был главной лейбла, который ведет всех участников Хфактора, АмерикаГотТалентс и пр., типичный такой продюсер старой школы, со всеми этими штуками вроде адских контрактов, купленных СМИ, травлей тех, кто осмеливается идти поперек него и все такое.

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Хотел сделать что-то типа Х-фактора для групп, дабы собрать новый 1D - группу поющих парней, получается? В таком предложении Манескин не были заинтересованы и сотрудничество не состоялось

Ну я хз, что он им может дать, его время давно ушло, он почти все свое влияние растерял. Так что Монескинам он даром не сдался, им нужен кто-то молодой, кто знает современный мир, да они все-таки не подростки, чтоб им можно было стандартный контракт навязать. Его полудохлые лейблы ребят просто не потянут.

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Måneskin. Всё от Евровидения до рпс-ных фичков

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