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#1 2014-01-19 14:39:33
- Анон
Шинмая
Shinmaya aka Fred (Шинмая, Ши, ныне известна как Dirk_Gently) - дайриюзер, прославившийся многочисленными фандомными срачами и глобальным слешем головного мозга. О старых срачах и выступлениях можно почитать в дайрипедии.
В интернетах сабж бисексуальный полиаморный гендерквир, ирл замужняя женщина, не страдающая никакими диагностированными расстройствами гендерной идентичности.
Ну, это мы исправим Где припасть:
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Отредактировано (2014-01-19 14:45:45)
#3101 2016-04-01 12:32:39
- Анон
Re: Шинмая
кстати, нет новостей от нашей звизды?
#3102 2016-04-01 12:41:21
- Анон
Re: Шинмая
кстати, нет новостей от нашей звизды?
Она нарисовала трейд кому-то с тумблера.
Ответная часть:
http://star-fenix.tumblr.com/post/14196 … iantartcom
#3103 2016-04-01 12:44:38
- Анон
Re: Шинмая
Ух ты, они получились еще более мерзкие, чем у Ш. У человека талант.
#3104 2016-04-01 14:12:37
- Анон
Re: Шинмая
А там есть указание на земные годы?
Ещё как, гондон прыгнул на хуй пришельца, бросив дом, мать и друзей, в 2007 году.
Значит дизайн в самый раз XD
#3105 2016-04-01 14:36:02
- Анон
Re: Шинмая
Значит дизайн в самый раз XD
Это, кстати, уже обсуждали - проблема в том, что у неё все действие в космосе, где бесконечный земной 2007 судя по дизайнам всего, это странно.
Даже не предложила читателям поставить эту дуру на место.
Сука, проорал. 
Ты (очевидно, не-шинмая-но-её-друг с истерикой это был ты) уже пытался тут кого-то ставить и получил полон рот хуев. В принципе, то же самое произошло бы с любым, кто полез к сандре оспаривать очевидное.
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#3106 2016-04-01 17:57:07
- Анон
Re: Шинмая
блин, вот чем дольше смотрю на этот Авторский Комикс, сильнее недоумеваю, какого хера я, например, боюсь попробовать собственный (ну как же, скилла же не хватает!). или писево свое она умудрилась издать. откуда у людей такое отсутствие самокритики?
#3107 2016-04-01 18:18:00
- Анон
Re: Шинмая
Тем временем, Шинмае вломили хуев на тумблере на ту же тему, и она рыдает, что мир жесток и глуп, а она не в силах изменить его.
So, yet again I managed to create a little bit of a shitstorm in a fandom. Which is good, which reminds me of a dialogue a little. Where people pitch in their different points of view. Sadly, many people also want to try and accuse me of diminishing f/f ships in Black Sails or undermining the importance of JamesThomas for the story. And people make all these accusations not knowing shit about me, where I come from, what background I have and well… OK, I think I might actually tell a couple of words.
So, I`m from Russia (a very homophobic country, you know?), I`m bigender and bisexual. I only came out as bisexual about 5 years ago as repsonse to the anti-gay laws our government passed, when I decided I had to stop hiding these things I knew were true for me. As for being genderqueer, I always knew it about me, and used to treat it as a game (you know, in Russia we have feminine and masculine flexias to the verbs, and also pronouns, too, so I’ve been switching from feminine to masculine flexias in my speech for a long time, and I have a Russian blog where I usually write as a man would. In Russia the knowledge about gender dysphoria has only been somewhat widely spread around last 5-10 years. As I am not very disturbed by my physical body, I never thought I could have some kind of it, and considered this way of speech as some kind of game that made me happy. Until I read what being bigender is, and that was the moment when it all clicked: “OMG! That’s me!”
It’s just a prologue to the story. So while in my daily life it’s fairly OK with me to conform to my female gender role, many people could say I’m cis-hetero if they don’t know me closely. But with close friends, or in stressful situations, “the man comes out” and I’m more likely to behave differently, showing much more of the masculine side. My husband’s friends have noticed that a lot, and some of them know how I am, but some - don’t. But most of them have once or twice admitted that hanging out with me just feels like there aren’t any girls around. Some of them even joke about it, like “Well, this joke isn’t for the ladies, not that there are any”, and that’s OK with me, because when around men, this happens to me, too. I rarely, very rarely conform to my feminine role. 
So thing is, when I read books or watch TV, I almost always relate to male characrters. And more so to gay male characters. That’s just how it clicks. I think it has a lot to do with how poorly a lot of women are written in many shows, but lately the situation is getting better. With Black Sails, for example, it’s incredible how I love all the women there. All of them. With Miranda, Eleanore and Ann being my favorites, but really I admire all of them. Max, Madi, the Maroon Queen, Idelle, Mrs Mapleton, they all are alive characters, and I love how they’ve written. Well, with Eleanore I’ve been conflicted this season. I just don’t like her affair with Rogers, I was so much hoping for Eleanore to revive her relationship with Max.
Yes, which brings me to the point why I started watching Black Sails in the first place. Well, I love pirate theme, of course, but really it was their kiss in the 1st trailer, that made me start counting days until the show comes out. So they were actually the first pairing I loved about the show, though later I found myself shipping Vane/Eleanore more, but in this season they’ve killed the ship, so not I have some hopes for Eleanore/Max in season 4.
Now, James/Thomas. This is something I caught in he story around 1.04 and then in 1.07. And when I was waiting for season 2, I was anticipating how wonderful their story would be, until I saw season 2. And as much as I love gay stories, I don’t like when they are being developed in this way. In which way, you’ll ask me? In a very subtle way. I remember when I watched 4 episodes of season 2, I was very confused: like, I saw some hints in the subtext, some radiant looks they sent to each other, but other than that there was no build up, and James also had his thing with Miranda. Which is why when in episode 5 the plot twist, which I had very much been anticipating, was revealed, I had mixed feelings. The same very day I was discussing this episode with some of the Russian viewers, and one man claimed there was no kiss, therefore he saw nothing, therefore Flint isn’t gay. I had to make a screenshot and brighten it with a photoshop filter to fucking prove that their lips were touching! That’s when it hit me first. The realization that it wasn’t equal. The realization, that I have nothing to prove with Max/Anne at this point, for example, but here I had to go and alter the shading in the screenshot to make the kiss visible.
I know, many of you will tell me (and have told me already) that that’s what the story demanded at that point, but I will tell you this: the people write the story. The writers do. And the story serves their purposes, not the other way around. And once again, how come it’s always the gay storyline that “doesn’t have to be rushed” or “needs for people to see the nuances of the story” or “doesn’t need that kind of explicit visual” or “isn’t developed to a point where they could get together”? How come it is ALWAYS a gay story? How come they don’t have any of these nuances in any of the hetero or F/F stories? How come all the eroticism (in a MA-rated show!) never actually took away the emotional weight from any hetero or F/F/ story, only added weight to it, but somehow that would have happened to James/Thomas if they had been shown in bed not after, but during…? The fact that so many people are ready to attack me for simply pointing out the facts, proves that those writers did their jobs well.
As a writer, whose first book was censored so that it contained less m/m eroticism that was initially there, I know what it is and how it is to sacrifice artistic freedom for the chance to let the glimpse of an idea to be let out in the crowd. And I personally don’t like the feeling. But then again, I had never been planning to publish my book, it happened by a chance, really, and I never did any business with it, cuz you gotta be a fool to try and do business with LGBTQA-themed stories in Russia, these days… you’re either gonna be sued by religious fundamentalists, or just bullied to death… this is real, BTW, some of my activist-friends have been threatened a lot of times… but I’m digressing. It’s just… I just want you to be able to know me more, and understand why it is that sometimes I might say things that transpire as agressive and bashing, while I really don’t enjoy fighting at all. But that’s the purpose of me writing it, because I really want to open to people who I want to achieve some level of understanding with. My point is, that Black Sails - is a commercial product, and despite the fact that Steinberg and Levine are saying how free they are and how on the same page with the network they create, the fact is a fact: it’s business, they’re the workers, ans as any workers they have these job discriptions, as in something they know the network is not willing to feature.
So far, I say it’s gay pirates. I know when that interview with Rupert Penry Jones was out when he said he felt sorry that Thomas didn’t play a bigger role in James’ life and that some scripts were altered (was he also bashing the James/Thomas story and underappreciating it, I wonder?), I didn’t want to believe him, I chose to see that interview as a provocative way to remind people that Flint is gay. But in hindsight, after season 3, I can only agree. Somehow, Black Sails, saying that they want to create a realistic vibe to the pirate life, managed to show us everything, BUT gay pirates. Like, yeah, we have Flint, but he’s not even openly gay. He admitted his secret to Silver, which is a step forward, I guess, but still, nothing like freedom about who you love and what you are. I think that if Black Sails wanted to target LGBTQA-demo fairly, they would have at least included some minor characters in at least one episode, they’d have included at least 1 male prostitute to the brothel, you know? Just to show that there ARE men in Nassau, who enjoy the company of men. So I claim this once again: right now it’s clear to me that Black Sails targets only L and female B (and maybe also A if Billy is ace after all) part of the LGBTQA audience, because it’s safe and doesn’t offend the heterosexual male viewers. But the fact that their male lead is officially gay allows them a more wider advertising, and allows them to claim to be more progressive than they actually are.
So. In Russia we have a very homophobic society, but let me tell you about this trend, that completely sickens me. Whenever I would discuss Black Sails with any of the male viewers (apart from my husband, he’s very cool with all queerness), I’d hear something like that: “Oh, chicks banging are cool! But episode 2.05 made me wanna puke”. I can hardly describe what I feel when I hear this. And this offends me as someone who is genderqueer and identifies with male and female genders. As a man, I feel this gutwrenching sickness that no matter how deep my feelings are, they will always be ignored, and labels and stigmas will be attached based on who it is I chose to be intimate with… I, as a woman, feel diminished, merely a device for a male gaze. The more titties flailing in the open - the better. They don’t care about the feelings involved, just at the erotic idea of one chick on another. Which is something that Black Sails provides them in abundance! Somehow when women are concerned, being very not delicate and leaving nothing to imagination isn’t the problem. The story demands it, right? But suddenly, when it comes to two men in love, the story is all about the allusions, about the meaning and nuances, right? How come, people? Don’t tell me you don’t feel unfairness there? Because it IS unfair. Maybe you haven’t read the homophobic discussions on western forums last year? Or the comments on Black Sails facebook page? Go read them. I assure you, a lot of viewers devalue f/f ships by saying phrases like in example above. It is not me, who devalues the f/f ships (who were the 1st reason I even started watching this show!), it’s the policy of the network, who decides which audience to cater for more, and which to leave with a nice, but a very visually non-threatening story.
This said, I can love a story, can love a pairing, but I can still look at it from the point of view of a creator, who has their goals and job duties. Who has demo to please, copies to sell, and sadly, in this case, season 3 of Black Sails has shown me, that despite having a gay lead character, they still target straight men as their priority demo.
On the whole, I’ll say this. I wish to be wrong! With all the insides of my soul, I WISH TO BE OH SO WRONG! I actually wish to see season 4 and laugh at myself for being so cynical and not having faith in the better of this world. At this point I would welcome any development for Flint, be it FlintBilly, or FlintSilver, or FlintDeGroot, or FlintBen, or maybe BillyBen, but that would surprise me even more than FlintDegroot would… I SO-SO-SO wish to be wrong about what I’ve written above. I so-so-so wish for Black Sails to realize they’d gain so much if they target LGBT audience as their main one, and that it’s 2017 for season 4 already, so… yeah… I wish I were so very wrong about it.
This said. I’m not going to open askbox for anons. But anyone who wants to come off anon, is welcome for a discussion.
#3108 2016-04-01 18:29:29
- Анон
Re: Шинмая
блин, вот чем дольше смотрю на этот Авторский Комикс, сильнее недоумеваю, какого хера я, например, боюсь попробовать собственный (ну как же, скилла же не хватает!). или писево свое она умудрилась издать. откуда у людей такое отсутствие самокритики?
Бро.
#3109 2016-04-01 18:34:05
- Анон
Re: Шинмая
Анончики, будьте добрые, перескажите 
Немецкий анон развозит сопли и понимает из этой простыни в среднем одно слово из десяти.
#3110 2016-04-01 18:41:03
- Анон
Re: Шинмая
Анончики, будьте добрые, перескажите
Немецкий анон развозит сопли и понимает из этой простыни в среднем одно слово из десяти.
"Это не я говорю, что лесбухи не считаются, это мужики! А если им геев показать, у них пуканы бомбанут, поэтому канал сцыт показывать геев! Я надеюсь, что ошибаюсь, и они покажут какой-угодно-ещё гейский пейринг, но сейчас мне кажется, что этого не будет".
Ещё она жалуется, что её книгу зацензурили и в Рашке страшно жить писателям про геев. Страшно, но к ней-то это какое отношение имеет?
Отредактировано (2016-04-01 18:42:44)
#3111 2016-04-01 18:49:17
- Анон
Re: Шинмая
Тем временем, Шинмае вломили хуев на тумблере на ту же тему, и она рыдает, что мир жесток и глуп, а она не в силах изменить его.
So, yet again I managed to create a little bit of a shitstorm in a fandom. Which is good, which reminds me of a dialogue a little. Where people pitch in their different points of view. Sadly, many people also want to try and accuse me of diminishing f/f ships in Black Sails or undermining the importance of JamesThomas for the story. And people make all these accusations not knowing shit about me, where I come from, what background I have and well… OK, I think I might actually tell a couple of words.
So, I`m from Russia (a very homophobic country, you know?), I`m bigender and bisexual. I only came out as bisexual about 5 years ago as repsonse to the anti-gay laws our government passed, when I decided I had to stop hiding these things I knew were true for me. As for being genderqueer, I always knew it about me, and used to treat it as a game (you know, in Russia we have feminine and masculine flexias to the verbs, and also pronouns, too, so I’ve been switching from feminine to masculine flexias in my speech for a long time, and I have a Russian blog where I usually write as a man would. In Russia the knowledge about gender dysphoria has only been somewhat widely spread around last 5-10 years. As I am not very disturbed by my physical body, I never thought I could have some kind of it, and considered this way of speech as some kind of game that made me happy. Until I read what being bigender is, and that was the moment when it all clicked: “OMG! That’s me!”
It’s just a prologue to the story. So while in my daily life it’s fairly OK with me to conform to my female gender role, many people could say I’m cis-hetero if they don’t know me closely. But with close friends, or in stressful situations, “the man comes out” and I’m more likely to behave differently, showing much more of the masculine side. My husband’s friends have noticed that a lot, and some of them know how I am, but some - don’t. But most of them have once or twice admitted that hanging out with me just feels like there aren’t any girls around. Some of them even joke about it, like “Well, this joke isn’t for the ladies, not that there are any”, and that’s OK with me, because when around men, this happens to me, too. I rarely, very rarely conform to my feminine role.
So thing is, when I read books or watch TV, I almost always relate to male characrters. And more so to gay male characters. That’s just how it clicks. I think it has a lot to do with how poorly a lot of women are written in many shows, but lately the situation is getting better. With Black Sails, for example, it’s incredible how I love all the women there. All of them. With Miranda, Eleanore and Ann being my favorites, but really I admire all of them. Max, Madi, the Maroon Queen, Idelle, Mrs Mapleton, they all are alive characters, and I love how they’ve written. Well, with Eleanore I’ve been conflicted this season. I just don’t like her affair with Rogers, I was so much hoping for Eleanore to revive her relationship with Max.
Yes, which brings me to the point why I started watching Black Sails in the first place. Well, I love pirate theme, of course, but really it was their kiss in the 1st trailer, that made me start counting days until the show comes out. So they were actually the first pairing I loved about the show, though later I found myself shipping Vane/Eleanore more, but in this season they’ve killed the ship, so not I have some hopes for Eleanore/Max in season 4.
Now, James/Thomas. This is something I caught in he story around 1.04 and then in 1.07. And when I was waiting for season 2, I was anticipating how wonderful their story would be, until I saw season 2. And as much as I love gay stories, I don’t like when they are being developed in this way. In which way, you’ll ask me? In a very subtle way. I remember when I watched 4 episodes of season 2, I was very confused: like, I saw some hints in the subtext, some radiant looks they sent to each other, but other than that there was no build up, and James also had his thing with Miranda. Which is why when in episode 5 the plot twist, which I had very much been anticipating, was revealed, I had mixed feelings. The same very day I was discussing this episode with some of the Russian viewers, and one man claimed there was no kiss, therefore he saw nothing, therefore Flint isn’t gay. I had to make a screenshot and brighten it with a photoshop filter to fucking prove that their lips were touching! That’s when it hit me first. The realization that it wasn’t equal. The realization, that I have nothing to prove with Max/Anne at this point, for example, but here I had to go and alter the shading in the screenshot to make the kiss visible.
I know, many of you will tell me (and have told me already) that that’s what the story demanded at that point, but I will tell you this: the people write the story. The writers do. And the story serves their purposes, not the other way around. And once again, how come it’s always the gay storyline that “doesn’t have to be rushed” or “needs for people to see the nuances of the story” or “doesn’t need that kind of explicit visual” or “isn’t developed to a point where they could get together”? How come it is ALWAYS a gay story? How come they don’t have any of these nuances in any of the hetero or F/F stories? How come all the eroticism (in a MA-rated show!) never actually took away the emotional weight from any hetero or F/F/ story, only added weight to it, but somehow that would have happened to James/Thomas if they had been shown in bed not after, but during…? The fact that so many people are ready to attack me for simply pointing out the facts, proves that those writers did their jobs well.
As a writer, whose first book was censored so that it contained less m/m eroticism that was initially there, I know what it is and how it is to sacrifice artistic freedom for the chance to let the glimpse of an idea to be let out in the crowd. And I personally don’t like the feeling. But then again, I had never been planning to publish my book, it happened by a chance, really, and I never did any business with it, cuz you gotta be a fool to try and do business with LGBTQA-themed stories in Russia, these days… you’re either gonna be sued by religious fundamentalists, or just bullied to death… this is real, BTW, some of my activist-friends have been threatened a lot of times… but I’m digressing. It’s just… I just want you to be able to know me more, and understand why it is that sometimes I might say things that transpire as agressive and bashing, while I really don’t enjoy fighting at all. But that’s the purpose of me writing it, because I really want to open to people who I want to achieve some level of understanding with. My point is, that Black Sails - is a commercial product, and despite the fact that Steinberg and Levine are saying how free they are and how on the same page with the network they create, the fact is a fact: it’s business, they’re the workers, ans as any workers they have these job discriptions, as in something they know the network is not willing to feature.
So far, I say it’s gay pirates. I know when that interview with Rupert Penry Jones was out when he said he felt sorry that Thomas didn’t play a bigger role in James’ life and that some scripts were altered (was he also bashing the James/Thomas story and underappreciating it, I wonder?), I didn’t want to believe him, I chose to see that interview as a provocative way to remind people that Flint is gay. But in hindsight, after season 3, I can only agree. Somehow, Black Sails, saying that they want to create a realistic vibe to the pirate life, managed to show us everything, BUT gay pirates. Like, yeah, we have Flint, but he’s not even openly gay. He admitted his secret to Silver, which is a step forward, I guess, but still, nothing like freedom about who you love and what you are. I think that if Black Sails wanted to target LGBTQA-demo fairly, they would have at least included some minor characters in at least one episode, they’d have included at least 1 male prostitute to the brothel, you know? Just to show that there ARE men in Nassau, who enjoy the company of men. So I claim this once again: right now it’s clear to me that Black Sails targets only L and female B (and maybe also A if Billy is ace after all) part of the LGBTQA audience, because it’s safe and doesn’t offend the heterosexual male viewers. But the fact that their male lead is officially gay allows them a more wider advertising, and allows them to claim to be more progressive than they actually are.
So. In Russia we have a very homophobic society, but let me tell you about this trend, that completely sickens me. Whenever I would discuss Black Sails with any of the male viewers (apart from my husband, he’s very cool with all queerness), I’d hear something like that: “Oh, chicks banging are cool! But episode 2.05 made me wanna puke”. I can hardly describe what I feel when I hear this. And this offends me as someone who is genderqueer and identifies with male and female genders. As a man, I feel this gutwrenching sickness that no matter how deep my feelings are, they will always be ignored, and labels and stigmas will be attached based on who it is I chose to be intimate with… I, as a woman, feel diminished, merely a device for a male gaze. The more titties flailing in the open - the better. They don’t care about the feelings involved, just at the erotic idea of one chick on another. Which is something that Black Sails provides them in abundance! Somehow when women are concerned, being very not delicate and leaving nothing to imagination isn’t the problem. The story demands it, right? But suddenly, when it comes to two men in love, the story is all about the allusions, about the meaning and nuances, right? How come, people? Don’t tell me you don’t feel unfairness there? Because it IS unfair. Maybe you haven’t read the homophobic discussions on western forums last year? Or the comments on Black Sails facebook page? Go read them. I assure you, a lot of viewers devalue f/f ships by saying phrases like in example above. It is not me, who devalues the f/f ships (who were the 1st reason I even started watching this show!), it’s the policy of the network, who decides which audience to cater for more, and which to leave with a nice, but a very visually non-threatening story.
This said, I can love a story, can love a pairing, but I can still look at it from the point of view of a creator, who has their goals and job duties. Who has demo to please, copies to sell, and sadly, in this case, season 3 of Black Sails has shown me, that despite having a gay lead character, they still target straight men as their priority demo.
On the whole, I’ll say this. I wish to be wrong! With all the insides of my soul, I WISH TO BE OH SO WRONG! I actually wish to see season 4 and laugh at myself for being so cynical and not having faith in the better of this world. At this point I would welcome any development for Flint, be it FlintBilly, or FlintSilver, or FlintDeGroot, or FlintBen, or maybe BillyBen, but that would surprise me even more than FlintDegroot would… I SO-SO-SO wish to be wrong about what I’ve written above. I so-so-so wish for Black Sails to realize they’d gain so much if they target LGBT audience as their main one, and that it’s 2017 for season 4 already, so… yeah… I wish I were so very wrong about it.
This said. I’m not going to open askbox for anons. But anyone who wants to come off anon, is welcome for a discussion.
#3112 2016-04-01 18:50:21
- Анон
Re: Шинмая
Тем временем, Шинмае вломили хуев на тумблере на ту же тему, и она рыдает, что мир жесток и глуп, а она не в силах изменить его.
блеать сколько букав. И Шинмае очень не стоит писать по-английски. Шекспира в гробу на скоростном вертеле переворачивает.
So while in my daily life it’s fairly OK with me to conform to my female gender role, many people could say I’m cis-hetero if they don’t know me closely.
My husband’s friends have noticed that a lot, and some of them know how I am, but some - don’t. But most of them have once or twice admitted that hanging out with me just feels like there aren’t any girls around. Some of them even joke about it, like “Well, this joke isn’t for the ladies, not that there are any”, and that’s OK with me, because when around men, this happens to me, too.
Так она легко катит за циску-натуралку и все её таковой видят, или всё же друзья мужа легко просекают, что она тайный мужыг?
Дальше ниасилил. Инглиш Шинмаи сломал все мои глаза.
Ну и самонадрачивание зашкаливает. Обычным смертным не догадаться, что я джендерквир чудо! Но особые люди, как, например, мой муж и его наисветлейшие друзья (а у вас есть муж? а у него есть друзья?), они видят во мне скрытого мужика, и мы вместе посмеиваемся над недалёким миром.
#3113 2016-04-01 18:57:18
- Анон
Re: Шинмая
My husband’s friends have noticed that a lot, and some of them know how I am, but some - don’t. But most of them have once or twice admitted that hanging out with me just feels like there aren’t any girls around. Some of them even joke about it, like “Well, this joke isn’t for the ladies, not that there are any”, and that’s OK with me, because when around men, this happens to me, too.
Она догадывается, что быть "нитакой" с точки зрения феминисток - не достижение, а хвастаться этим - зашкварище?
#3114 2016-04-01 18:59:49
- Анон
Re: Шинмая
краткий пересказ пидорашения:
ши говорит о том, что опять случайно вбросила говна на вентилятор и люди теперь обвиняют ее в принижении фема и томас/джеймс, но как так можно, эти люди ничего о ней не знают!! поэтому она расскажет!
она бигендер и бисексуал (!) из гомофобной рашки, причем каминаутнулась она в знак протеста против антипидорских законов, но, мол, всегда это о себе знала и игралась (по ее же словам) в дайригендерство, меняя лицо, от которого писала в днявочке. и именно из этого писева поняла, что она бигендер, хотя никакой у нее дисфории по ее же словам, она нормальная, она прост))0)
простые смертные могут считать её цис-тян, но допущенные к сиятельной поближе знают, что в случае пиздеца в ши прорезается мужык, так что даже друганы ее мужа заприметили метаморфозы, и вообще она свой в доску парень с мужиками, а не богомерзкая тян.
так что когда она читает/смотрит что-то, то рилейтится с мужскими персонажами, особенно с геями, причем это не потому что мало нормальных женских персонажей. и вообще паруса она начала смотреть не потому что пираты, а потому что в трейлере тян целовались.
про флинта с томасом. ши прозрела еще в 1.04 и 1.07, всё ждала, ну когда же!!, но потом ей не понравилось, потому что где слоубилд и все дела, и вообще люди не верили, что там гейство, так что ей пришлось отцветокорректить фотку, чтобы подтвердить их поцелуй. а для макс с анной ничетакова не надо было!!! неравноправие!!!
конечно, многие могут заявить, что именно такой демонстрации требовала история в тот момент, но историю пишут авторы, она служит их целям, так что какого хуя обделили с м/м контентом? и все кто смеет наехать на ши за то, что она в претензии, что мужики не ябутся в кадре - это им мозги промыли создатели.
как писатель (!), чья первая книга была отцензурена и из которой выкинули половину ебли, она знает, how it is to sacrifice artistic freedom. но она конечно никогда и не планировала издаваться, потому что чугунная рашка и угрозы для жизни. поэтому она и хочет, чтобы все на толерантной тумбе осознали, почему она может выглядеть такой дерзкой чикой, хотя на самом деле ей не нравится сраться.
а про паруса она всего лишь имела в виду что это коммерческая шняга и поэтому есть указания сверху.
в черных парусах по мнению ши додали всего суперпиратского реалистичного, кроме пиратов-пидоров, потому что флинт и тот не открытый гей (представляю его публичный каминаут на квотердеке, ага), и если бы паруса были для лгбт, то были бы и мужики-проститутки и другой фансервис, а где пяни, где они??? пока же додают только лесбиянкам и бисексуал(к)ам, чтобы не оскорбить мужского взгляда
а в деревянной рашке так вообще мужики в восторге от жарящихся цыпочек, но от 2.05 им хотелось блевануть, и ши, как гендерквир чувствовала себя оскорбленной (!), потому что она рилейтится с гомоперсонажами. и как женщину её тоже задевают, ага.
создатели неправы, что сиськами у них машут направо и налево, а как только затрагивается мужская гей-стори, то одни недомолвки. и это не она принижает ж/ж, она вообще молодец и ради них и начала смотреть, это все канал виноват и ориентация на аудиторию, а их гейский протагонист не показывает себя поэтому во всей красе.
но ши бы очень хотела ОКАЗАТЬСЯ НЕПРАВОЙ, но нет, нет, бедняжка права, а так бы она радостно схавала любой канонный шип с флинтом, потому что ура, нет дискриминации!
и теперь, когда всем все ясно, она прикроет инбокс от анонов.
#3115 2016-04-01 19:00:47
- Анон
Re: Шинмая
My husband’s friends have noticed that a lot, and some of them know how I am, but some - don’t. But most of them have once or twice admitted that hanging out with me just feels like there aren’t any girls around. Some of them even joke about it, like “Well, this joke isn’t for the ladies, not that there are any”, and that’s OK with me, because when around men, this happens to me, too.
Очередная нетакая с мужским характером и складом ума. Ебаное дно.
#3116 2016-04-01 19:02:53
- Анон
Re: Шинмая
вдогонку мой комментарий к этой говнопрстыне: может, конечно, можно доебаться до создателей за дисбаланс м/м и ж/ж, там у ши что-то здравое проблескивает, за исключением одной маленькой детали - никто ничего не обещал, это не лгбт-ориентированный сериал, и чудо, что нам вообще в контексте пиратов и сюжетности дали канонных вариаций.
и она ловко не ответила почти ни на одну предъяву и легла своей бигендерной грудью на амбразуру как страдалица.
#3117 2016-04-01 19:12:32
- Анон
Re: Шинмая
Тем временем, Шинмае вломили хуев на тумблере на ту же тему, и она рыдает, что мир жесток и глуп, а она не в силах изменить его.
Ого, а можно это тоже принести?
#3118 2016-04-01 19:15:56
- Анон
Re: Шинмая
Ща, занесем.
Ши - красотка. "В стрессовых ситуациях у меня есть яйца" = Я МУЖИК. "Я общаюсь с друзьями своего мужа и вообще с мужиками" = Я МУЖК, "Я могу посмеяться над шуткой не для "леди" = Я МУЖИК. И даже хуй изо рта вынимаю. Значит точно мужик. Потому что человек - это мужик. А тян - это тян.
Не, нигде не жмет.
#3119 2016-04-01 19:19:33
- Анон
Re: Шинмая
Тем временем, Шинмае вломили хуев на тумблере на ту же тему, и она рыдает, что мир жесток и глуп, а она не в силах изменить его.
Ого, а можно это тоже принести?
Например, этот псто:
http://shinmaya-aka-fred.tumblr.com/pos … ase-notice
Я так понял, большая часть бугурта произошла в личке, Ши эти вопросы не публиковала, сразу попросила друзяшек катать ей посты про Блинт-из-кэнон
#3120 2016-04-01 19:25:23
- Анон
Re: Шинмая
В стрессовых ситуациях у меня есть яйца
И где, где? Если ее от пары несогласных комментов так пидорасит?
Ох, Ши... 
#3121 2016-04-01 19:26:32
- Анон
Re: Шинмая
shinmaya-aka-fred:
jchelseaw:
shinmaya-aka-fred:
THIS:
is proper m/m representation
THIS, however:
looks very much like trying very hard to not offend the homophobes and shy away from all the ertoticism in m/m romantic interaction… the gif is even making the shadow lighter than it was in the show, by the way.
Just saying…
Now which one is relolutionary, I wonder?
(пришел чувак)
….or one is a dramatic, passionate moment in a WHOLE DIFFERENT situation than the equally dramatic, passionate moment.
It’s not shying away from eroticism at all. I’d argue I got more shivers from the bottom scene than the top. It’s just a different story with a different situation. As for the light, that isn’t a strategically placed shadow. High contrast lighting like that is used to up the tension in a scene, and in a scene like this, the tension is definitely high. It is true, it is darker (uncolored gif to compare) but it’s not like by using a more contrasted lighting technique that the tender face caress is any less shiver-enducing.
Malec was a situation where Alec has decided ‘FUCK IT!’ and strode down the aisle like it was his personal catwalk and dragged Magnus into a big, dramatic kiss in front of the whole world. Yes, his culture is incredibly homophobic and there will probably be consequences, but it’s still a VERY different story than the other. (Don’t get me wrong, I LOVED THIS SO MUCH you don’t even know)
Thomas/James is a situation where it is the early 1700s, James is a young officer in the British Royal Navy and Thomas is Lord Thomas Hamilton and the precursor to this kiss was Thomas’s father having a go at how his son is a ridiculous dreamer with ideas that are outrageous and when he asks James to agree with him, James stands up and in an INTENSELY reserved rage (shaking but not moving, tight voice, but speaking at a calm level) dramatically rebuts everything he has just said and extols the brilliance and nobility of Thomas and then tells him to LEAVE HIS OWN HOUSE if he can’t be proud of his son, and after his father has stormed out, Thomas is in awe, he’s looking at him like he can’t breathe but can’t look away, and then he slowly approaches him. ALSO NOTE, THIS IS ALL HAPPENING WHILE THOMAS’S WIFE IS WATCHING (she’s in on it, obviously, but still, another person) and he gently touches James’s face and steps into his space and kisses him IN FRONT OF ANOTHER PERSON. James is visibly upset and scared so Thomas is so gentle in kissing him.
It’s a tender, beautiful, romantic moment that I would was was unparallelled before this beautiful Malec kiss.
But the situations are different. Neither one is good or bad. They are both appropriate for the situation. It’s clearly not about ‘don’t offended the homophobes’ it’s because that’s the ONLY way it could’ve gone in that situation without it being extremely unfitting. ALL of Thomas and James is in a flashback so we know all along that they don’t get a happy ending. Whereas with Malec, this is supposed to be the beginning of something that CAN have a happy ending.
Also if you watch the show, you know that this kiss is a flashback of the origin story of the most feared pirate. Usually any hero or villain has someone they love taken from them and it starts them on their path, and anybody who watches Black Sails, you know that James’s fear of Thomas doing something that is impossible to pass off as anything but homosexual in front of others is WELL founded because what happens? They get found out and THOMAS DIES because of it.
The situations are different, the stories are very different, and most of all, the narrative structure of these two shows is VERY different.
One is a supernatural show about demons and demon hunters set in modern day New York.
One is a gritty historical drama about the Golden Age of Piracy.
Anybody with the slightest training in film technique and film theory knows that there is no world in which the two are comparable in any way other than ‘both these narratives have a gay man as a main character’.
Ши:
A lot of words can be said, a lot of explanations offered, but the fact stays a fact: Black Sails doesn’t treat it’s M/M relationship with nearly the same respect as it does it’s hetero- and F/F ones.
I could go on for pages here how they use this gay plot as a shock value to the audience, and how they use the idea of this eternal love from the past in order to not let Flint act on his sexuality in the current timeline, and how they never showed an actual sex-scene with Thomas, only a very safe and totally non-threatening cuddling… etc. etc…
But I don’t feel like repeating my own words for like a 1000th time.
I repeat: Black Sails doesn’t treat it’s M/M relationship with nearly the same respect as it does it’s hetero- and F/F ones. End of story.
Пришел автор гифки с Флинтом и Томасом:
First of all, I never gave you permission to use my gif. I would appreciate if you please refrained from using my gifs in the future. And I would ask you to please remove my gif from your post. I have previously posted on how uncomfortable I am with the way James/Thomas gets treated in these arguments and I really do not appreciate having my gifs used to further this argument.
“ I could go on for pages here how they use this gay plot as a shock value to the audience ”
“ and how they never showed an actual sex-scene with Thomas, only a very safe and totally non-threatening cuddling… etc. etc…“
Second, the fact that the validity of a lgbt+ relationship rests on whether or not a couple has had sex is abhorrent (not to mention acephobic). The fact that lgbt+ couples need to meet this list of things to be considered real and not “shock value” is appalling. As someone who is in an f/f relationship, I am extremely offended by this notion, also by the notion that f/f relationships are “just for the male gaze” and “everyone’s okay with lesbians.” You know why otherwise homophobic people are okay with f/f and m/f sexual scenes? Hint: it has nothing to do with being okay with lgbt+. It’s about sexualizing women, the two things those types of pairings have in common and why some people are not okay with m/m. Not because they are true supporters.
Despite the fact the writers have continuously underscored Flint/Thomas’ relationship’s importance in the show, have built it up so the entire plot wouldn’t exist without it, have shown how much Flint loved him and how important Thomas was to him, but this is apparently all “shock value.”
“ and how they use the idea of this eternal love from the past in order to not let Flint act on his sexuality in the current timeline ”
Also, they are not using Flint’s “eternal love” to keep him from having a relationship. You can be in love with more than one person and have important relationships with more than one person (this show has two polyships….) If someone’s spouse dies it does not stop the person left behind from loving and remembering them, nor does it stop them from falling in love again. You know what distracts people from relationships? Watching someone you love get shot to death right in front of you not a few months prior when you’re already traumatized from so many losses. You know what else distracts people from a relationship? Last time he got into a relationship, the man he loved freaking died because they had their relationship used against them. You know what else distracts people from relationships? Fighting a freaking war.
I have zero problem with wanting another m/m relationship, or sex scene, or another relationship for Flint, so you can miss me with that. What I do have a problem with, is people devaluing their relationship and reducing lgbt+ relationships to only sex scenes.
End of story
You know why otherwise homophobic people are okay with f/f and m/f sexual scenes? Hint: it has nothing to do with being okay with lgbt+. It’s about sexualizing women
louder. look this show definitely needs some m/m sex if only so all the sad str8 men watching it and living vicariously through vane will cry harder, but reducing the actual m/m representation only to sex, demeaning the the actual m/m relationship we’ve had on this show do to lack of onscreen nudes is counterproductive. thomas and flint had a half of season worth of build up and three season seasons of repercussions in the narrative. how is that less than maxanne or maxanor or any of the dreaded str8s? Because no graphic sex? sex that usually falls under the umbrella of awkward male gaze anyway (as much as i hate to say it)?
there is plenty to criticize with regard to this show’s lgbt+ representation and starz, but thomas and flint specifically ain’t it. sry.
The hilarious thing to me is when people constantly diminish f/f ships, yet then claim they’re trying to fight for our community. People are NOT just “okay” with lesbians, as a lesbian I can tell you this as a fact. I’ve been in rooms before where two women on a show kiss, and the entire room goes; “oh god, they’re taking it THERE again.” To try to claim that f/f ships have almost a leg up on m/m ships is…honestly laughable.
Then, trying to disregard Flint/Hamilton because they didn’t have a sex scene. Wow. That’s just…so beyond disgusting. Can I just say how BEAUTIFUL that reveal was done? For one of the first time in I can’t even remember how long, an m/m reveal was done to HUMANIZE a character. The reveal of him, and Thomas, being in love was done to show that Flint was still a human being, with feelings, and emotions. Someone who loved, and lost. It made all the horrible things he’d done seem less demonic. They used that reveal, not for shock value, not to up the ratings, but to humanize their main character. They knew it would get hate, they knew fanboys would be pissed by it, but the way they did it was so poetic, and so beautiful. Yet you want to rip that down because they didn’t have sex on camera? He just came out this past episode to another character, said literally this ENTIRE war was fought in Thomas’ name. How is that any less powerful than the f/f ships?
I agree, add more m/m pairings, but don’t tear down the one we had, and don’t tear down the f/f ones, just because there was no sex there. If I had seen more f/f pairings throughout my life, maybe I wouldn’t have stayed in the closet until I was 18. This show helped me realize maybe the media will come around. These characters are developed, they’re lovely, and I’m so excited for what season 4 will bring.
Пришел еще чувак:
I’m sorry, but Starz needs lessons in gay representation?
STARZ?
Originally posted by thundermockingjay
THIS STARZ???
Originally posted by funny1723
REALLY???
Originally posted by soracide
HAVE YOU NEVER HEARD OF STARZ BEFORE?
Originally posted by fuckyeahpervyfangirls
Am I actually living in some horrible alternate reality where Starz was not responsible for Spartacus?
Ши:
Oh, I know about Starz alright. I’ve written a couple of articles about M/M representation on this network. So far I’ve noticed this: apparently they have no problems with full-on m/m representation when it’s about minor characters, not central to the plot, like in Spartacus, but they have problem committing to the gay storyline when it’s about their main character, like in DaVinci’s Demons or Black Sails. I’d say DaVinci’s Demons were even better than Flint’s story in Black Sails, but still, Leonardo in DaVinci’s Demons has little to do with his real-life prototype in terms of his sexuality. You know what I mean… Then Starz also had Torchwood Miracle Day, I believe those gifs are missing from ur answer, because the show is originally British. They didn’t shy away from gay scenes there, which is why I was just about as startled as you with my post, that STARZ (FUCKING STARZ!!!) gave this:
(черный экран)
as m/m representation in the 3rd season in Black Sails, a series where they made their central LEAD character gay, but they still chose not to show any visual material that would be too threatening to the alpha cis hetero males. It’s very clear that while they are ready to make their lead character gay, they aren’t ready to give him the same amount of explicit romantic narrative than they give to their hetero or F/F couples.
That’s my point, and yes, I think they’re double-faced about it, and I still can’t believe they’re doing it, but they’re doing it. That’s how things roll in the series right now, and yes, there are people who agree with me. So no, I don’t think you need to educate me about Starz and their balls. I’ve been following this network for a long time and there’s a reason why I am so pissed of by their chickenish approach to handling M/M romance on a fucking PIRATE show.
P.S. again, I DO NOT critisize F/F couples, shit, they were the reason I started watching the show in 2014.
#3122 2016-04-01 19:30:51
- Анон
Re: Шинмая
Гифки с поцелуями охуенные. Никто не знает, откуда они?
#3123 2016-04-01 19:33:32
- Анон
Re: Шинмая
И вот ещё, например
#3124 2016-04-01 19:39:03
- Анон
Re: Шинмая
я всегда считала, что "анальный карнавал" - это метафора, но в случае с Ши, похоже, не совсем.
#3125 2016-04-01 19:49:12
- Анон
Re: Шинмая
I’d say DaVinci’s Demons were even better than Flint’s story in Black Sails, but still, Leonardo in DaVinci’s Demons has little to do with his real-life prototype in terms of his sexuality
я вот сейчас не догнал. я, правда, пока только два сезона смотрел, но там прямым текстом сказано и показано даже, что лео абсолютно пансексуален и пол партнера его вообще не волнует. и вроде официально как раз известно, что да винчи (настоящий) состоял в связях с представителями обоих полов. че не так??