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Анон

Re: [фандомное] Кевин Гатри, актёр

Ну и правильно. Но выглядит все очень плохо :(

Да не просто плохо, а хуже некуда(

Анон

Re: [фандомное] Кевин Гатри, актёр

За такое надо виртуально хоронить.

Анон

Re: [фандомное] Кевин Гатри, актёр

Кевин Гатри за сексуальное насилие приговорён к трём годам тюремного заключения.

Анон

Re: [фандомное] Кевин Гатри, актёр

Асибешное:
Только за счёт того, что моральные силы от всей этой истории за месяц уже почти истлели, сейчас могу только пожать плечами и тихо вздохнуть: "да блять..."
Но всё равно так и не попадалась информация о расследовании, всё те же статьи с общей новостью. (Это не виктимблейминг, просто так и не видел информацию, толково разъясняющую тот момент с ДНК и почему только сейчас нашли.)

Так что пока, к счастью, актёр остаётся отдельно, сыгранные им персонажи – отдельно.

Анон

Re: [фандомное] Кевин Гатри, актёр

За такое надо виртуально хоронить.

За такое надо предстать перед судом и понести заслуженное наказание, что собственно и произошло.
А виртуальные похороны можно свернуть в трубку и... Задолбали уже со своей cancel culture

Анон

Re: [фандомное] Кевин Гатри, актёр

Так что пока, к счастью, актёр остаётся отдельно, сыгранные им персонажи – отдельно.

А если бы информация о расследовании попалась, то были бы не отдельно? Как это связано? Персонажи по-прежнему персонажи, а Гатри - Гатри.

Анон

Re: [фандомное] Кевин Гатри, актёр

А если бы информация о расследовании попалась, то были бы не отдельно? Как это связано? Персонажи по-прежнему персонажи, а Гатри - Гатри.

Тогда бы пришлось просто значительно дольше переваривать в своей голове разочарование и закреплять мантру "персонажу – персонажевое, актёру – актёровое".

Анон

Re: [фандомное] Кевин Гатри, актёр

Гатри собрался подавать апелляцию.

Анон

Re: [фандомное] Кевин Гатри, актёр

Гатри собрался подавать апелляцию.

Буквально только что увидел инфу о том, что Кевин Гатри принялся обжаловать приговор. Что ж, учитывая, что дело слишком мутное, подать апелляцию – это самое логичное, и странно было бы, если бы не подал. Пусть дальше расследуют эту муть и разъяснят все неясности с ДНК и блужданиями Скотта Рида с его звонками в скорую помощь.

Анон

Re: [фандомное] Кевин Гатри, актёр

У вас есть сомнения в его виновности?

Анон

Re: [фандомное] Кевин Гатри, актёр

У вас есть сомнения в его виновности?

У меня есть сомнения насчёт освещения полной картины того вечера. И если Гатри действительно виновен по всем пунктам, начиная с того, что раздевал девушку, чтобы домогаться, а не якобы помочь, а дальше всё остальное сексуальное насилие, то ему надо впаять не три года, а подольше, а девушка молодец, что нашла решимость заявить, чтобы такие преступления не замалчивались.
В этой истории также смущает Рид с я не я лишь хата моя, а я хожу туда сюда и в скорую звоню звоню. Если он допустим был в стельку пьян, но хватило ума звонить в скорую помощь, то это хорошо. Но вопрос, почему девушку вообще отвезли в его квартиру, а не туда, где она тогда жила? Следить, не станет ли ей очень плохо, и надо, чтобы хоть кто-то был рядом?

Короче, не имея для ознакомления хотя бы четверти данных этого дела, я не могу высказаться насчёт своего мнения, а тем более сомнения. К тому же я уже и не роюсь в выставленных на разных ресурсах статьях в поисках хоть какой-то дополнительной информации. (Тут свой бы внутренний ресурс психики поддерживать на плаву.) Так что будем ждать.

Анон

Re: [фандомное] Кевин Гатри, актёр

Не знаете, что там нового по Гатри? Приняли у него апелляцию?

Анон

Re: [фандомное] Кевин Гатри, актёр

Не знаете, что там нового по Гатри? Приняли у него апелляцию?

Апелляционную жалобу подал, но слушание состоится позже.

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Actor Kevin Guthrie to appeal conviction for sexually assaulting vulnerable woman

The Sunshine On Leith and Fantastic Beasts actor was jailed for three years last week after being found guilty of molesting the vulnerable woman.

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Kevin Guthrie will appeal against his conviction for sexually assaulting a woman. (Image: Reach PLC)

Actor Kevin Guthrie is to appeal against his conviction for sexually assaulting a vulnerable woman.

The Sunshine On Leith star was jailed for three years last week after being found guilty of molesting a 29-year-old actress.

The 33-year-old has now launched a bid for freedom after instructing his legal team to challenge both his conviction and sentence.

The assault happened at the home of Still Game actor Scott Reid, who played Methadone Mick in the BBC comedy series, and Guthrie had insisted that he had only 'helped' the woman after she became unwell.

However, his DNA was found on her clothing and he was found guilty of sexual assault following a trial at Glasgow Sheriff Court.

Guthrie's appeal bid was lodged at the High Court of Criminal Appeal in Edinburgh today and a hearing will take place at a later date.

He did not request to be released on bail pending his appeal and remains in custody.

Guthrie's trial was told the woman had been due to meet him and Mr Reid at a bar on the night of the alleged attack, but Mr Reid received a call from a taxi driver asking him to collect her as she appeared ill.

He and Guthrie helped the woman into the flat in Glasgow's Kelvindale and put her on a bed.

Mr Reid called NHS 24, leaving Guthrie in the room 'to make sure she was OK'.

But the woman recalled bed covers then 'being moved down my body'.

Guthrie - who also starred in the Fantastic Beasts film and the Netflix series The English Game - then sexually assaulted the woman.

The attack happened between September 30 and October 1, 2017 and he was unable to explain why his DNA was found on the woman's clothing.

As well as his jail sentence, Guthrie, of Glasgow, was also placed on the sex offenders' register for an indefinite period.

Sentencing him, Sheriff Tom Hughes said: "You had an educational background and worked extremely hard to get a part in acting in acclaimed films.

"The court must show that women can be protected from domestic sexual offences.'

"You committed this crime in a position of trust. She was unwell and thought her drink had been spiked elsewhere that night.

"The other man was urgently getting medical assistance and you were left in the room with her when she was not able to look after herself.

"The jury accepted that you committed these heinous crimes and the only appropriate sentence is imprisonment."

Gordon Jackson, QC, defending, told the sentencing hearing that Guthrie maintained his innocence.

He said: "If ever there was a case where something appears out of character it is this.

"The price he will pay with his own career is immense."

The High Court in Edinburgh confirmed an "intimation of intention to appeal" against conviction and sentence had been lodged for Guthrie.

https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glas … n-20638180

Анон

Re: [фандомное] Кевин Гатри, актёр

Спасибо!

Анон

Re: [фандомное] Кевин Гатри, актёр

Посадили?

Анон

Re: [фандомное] Кевин Гатри, актёр

Посадили?

Сидит. Про апелляцию новой информации не встречалось.

Анон

Re: [фандомное] Кевин Гатри, актёр

Да еб твою мать

Анон

Re: [фандомное] Кевин Гатри, актёр

Совершенно на него не похоже. Хотя что я знаю о нем на самом деле, кроме интервью?
Аноны, ну не молчите, что ваше мнение? Давно не заходила сюда уже и давно уже не такой ярый поклонник, каким была пару лет назад, но все ещё поклонник. Как вы думаете, правда или подстава? Блядь, плакать хочется

Анон

Re: [фандомное] Кевин Гатри, актёр

Анону хочется верить, что подстава.

Анон

Re: [фандомное] Кевин Гатри, актёр

Совершенно на него не похоже. Хотя что я знаю о нем на самом деле, кроме интервью?

Те же мысли, что да, кроме нечастых интервью ничего-то и не знаю, и хз какой он в реале. Но я бы понял и с сожалением сразу полностью бы принял то, что Кевин Гатри оказался мерзавцем, если бы не эта непонятная муть в деле, которая и даёт шаткую надежду, что что-то здесь нечисто и белые пятна в этом деле относительно Кевина Гатри очерняли, а на другие неясные моменты не обращали внимания или скрупулёзно не расследовали. Так что пока позволяю себе ждать благоприятный исход для Кевина Гатри и подтверждений, что именно сексуального насилия, а тем более изнасилования, растиражированного СМИ, он не совершал. Наивно, конечно, но имею право надеяться.

Анон

Re: [фандомное] Кевин Гатри, актёр

мне не нравится, с какой быстротой от него отказываются вчерашние друзья в твиттере. то есть, конечно, если виноват - пускай сидит, но ведь там столько неточностей и непонятностей. главное, все, кто отказались - абсолютные ноунеймы, которые явно ищут хайпа и очков в свою пользу от твиттерских сжв. блядь, 4 года назад. я бы тоже могла сохранить и засвидетельствовать старые трусы со спермой бывшего и упечь его в тюрьму? что это за доказательства? мне кажется, бедняга попал в эту воронку времени, где это модно, типа позировать в своем инстаграммчике с чашкой "i drink male tears". ну еб твою мать, если бы мои друзья так быстро с корабля не прыгали...это очень грустно. не убивай себя, кев
И у никого даже секунды на разумья. Надеюсь,ты в порядке

Анон

Re: [фандомное] Кевин Гатри, актёр

мне не нравится, с какой быстротой от него отказываются вчерашние друзья в твиттере. то есть, конечно, если виноват - пускай сидит, но ведь там столько неточностей и непонятностей.

Твиттер уже и не мониторю насчёт этого. Показушное открещивание выглядит как отбеливание себя любимых: я хороший, вот я отмылся от того, что общался с этим грязным, ату его, ату. Разочарование и осуждение актёра можно было высказать в другой манере, не акцентируя центр трагедии на себе, а хотя бы, как тоже делали, на пострадавшей девушке, а также, что сколько же подобных преступлений постоянно совершается.

И у никого даже секунды на разумья. Надеюсь,ты в порядке

Думаю, раз подал апелляцию, и не ходатайствовал об освобождении под залог до рассмотрения апелляции, то какие-то моральные силы пережить всю эту хрень у него есть, и хочется, чтобы апелляция прошла успешно.

Анон

Re: [фандомное] Кевин Гатри, актёр

^^

Больше года сюда не заходил, а с осени больше не мониторил, есть ли инфа о Кевине Гатри. Но вот вчера у меня наконец была энергия и вспомнил позабытое, пошёл в твиттер вводить «Kevin Guthrie». И вуаля – есть новая инфа:
срок сокращён на год – вместо 3 лет лишения свободы теперь 2 

Заслужил уменьшения, потому что ‘good character’

Статьям чуть больше месяца (инфа появилась ещё в июне, но я увидел лишь сейчас), статьи в принципе идентичны, а текст под катом скинул для собственного удобства.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/8 … x-assault/

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Actor Kevin Guthrie freed early from jail for sex assault due to his ‘good character’

8 Jun 2022

ACTOR Kevin Guthrie has won his appeal to have his prison term for sexual assault reduced from three years to two.

This comes after senior judges agreed his previous good character and the 'devastating' impact on his career should have been taken into account by a sheriff.

Actor Kevin Guthrie had his sentence reduced from three to two years

The sentence was reduced due to his 'previous good character'

Sunshine on Leith star Guthrie, 34, was released after he won an appeal which saw his three year sentence reduced to two.

He had been jailed last May for preying on a woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons, at a flat in Glasgow’s west end in September 2017.

Glasgow Sheriff Court heard the attack took place at a property belonging to fellow actor Scott Reid - who shot to fame as Methadone Mick in BBC Scotland’s beloved comedy Still Game.

Guthrie denied any wrongdoing and said he had only 'helped' the woman after she fell ill.

The actor, who also starred in the Fantastic Beasts films and Netflix series The English Game, was found guilty after a four-day trial and placed on the sex offenders register indefinitely.

The Court of Criminal Appeal in Edinburgh later saw Guthrie fail in a bid to quash his conviction.

But defence advocate Ian Duguid QC successfully argued that the sentence imposed on him was too lengthy.

Judges Lord Carloway, Lord Pentland and Lord Matthews agreed and reduced Guthrie’s sentence from three to two years.

Guthrie was released from custody immediately as he has already served the equivalent of a two year term.

A written judgement delivered by Lord Carloway has now revealed Guthrie’s appeal for his sentence to be cut had succeeded in part due to his previous good character.

The judges said Guthrie posed a low risk of re-offending although he continues to claim he is innocent.

Lord Carloway said: “Although it was recognised by the appellant that a custodial sentence was appropriate, it was submitted that the sheriff had attributed insufficient weight to the appellant’s previous exemplary character, his charity work and the devastating effect which the conviction would have on his career.

“The court agrees with that submission. The crime committed was a serious one. It is an inexplicable one when set against the appellant’s background.

“Most important, the appellant’s conviction is likely to end, at least for the foreseeable future, the successful career which he has worked hard to achieve.

“In these circumstances, the court will quash the sentence of three years and substitute one of two years imprisonment.”

https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glas … x-24190595

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Actor Kevin Guthrie had sex assault sentence reduced because of 'previous good character'

The Sunshine on Leith star was jailed for an attack on a woman in a Glasgow west end flat. He was released after he won an appeal and reduced the three year sentence to two.

10 JUN 2022

Actor Kevin Guthrie had his prison term for sexual assault reduced after senior judges agreed his previous good character and the 'devastating' impact on his career should have been taken into account by a sheriff.

Sunshine on Leith star Guthrie, 34, was released after he won an appeal which saw his three year sentence reduced to two.

He had been jailed last May for preying on a woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons, at a flat in Glasgow's west end in September 2017.

Glasgow Sheriff Court heard the attack took place at a property belonging to fellow actor Scott Reid - who shot to fame as Methadone Mick in BBC Scotland's beloved comedy Still Game.

Guthrie denied any wrongdoing and said he had only 'helped' the woman after she fell ill.

The actor, who also starred in the Fantastic Beasts films and Netflix series The English Game, was found guilty after a four-day trial and placed on the sex offenders register indefinitely.

The Court of Criminal Appeal in Edinburgh later saw Guthrie fail in a bid to quash his conviction.

But defence advocate Ian Duguid QC successfully argued that the sentence imposed on him was too lengthy.

Judges Lord Carloway, Lord Pentland and Lord Matthews agreed and reduced Guthrie's sentence from three to two years.

Guthrie was released from custody immediately as he has already served the equivalent of a two year term.

A written judgement delivered by Lord Carloway has now revealed Guthrie's appeal for his sentence to be cut had succeeded in part due to his previous good character.

The judges said Guthrie posed a low risk of re-offending although he continues to claim he is innocent.

Lord Carloway said: "Although it was recognised by the appellant that a custodial sentence was appropriate, it was submitted that the sheriff had attributed insufficient weight to the appellant's previous exemplary character, his charity work and the devastating effect which the conviction would have on his career.

"The court agrees with that submission. The crime committed was a serious one. It is an inexplicable one when set against the appellant's background.

"Most important, the appellant's conviction is likely to end, at least for the foreseeable future, the successful career which he has worked hard to achieve.

"In these circumstances, the court will quash the sentence of three years and substitute one of two years imprisonment."

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity- … x-27199633

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Fantastic Beasts' Kevin Guthrie sex assault sentence reduced after winning appeal
Senior judges agreed Kevin Guthrie's previous good character and the 'devastating' impact on his career should have been taken into account by a sheriff

Fantastic Beasts actor Kevin Guthrie has been freed from prison after he won an appeal to have his sexual assault prison term reduced from three years to two.

Senior judges agreed his previous good character and the 'devastating' impact on his career should have been taken into account by a sheriff.

The 34-year-old star was jailed last May after preying on a woman at a flat in Glasgow in September 2017.

Glasgow Sheriff Court was told that the assault took place at a property that fellow actor Scott Reid owned.

Meanwhile, Guthrie has maintained his innocence and denied any wrongdoing. He claimed he only 'helped' the woman after she fell ill.

A four-day trial took place and the actor, who starred in the Netflix series The English Game, was found guilty and placed on the sex offenders register indefinitely.

Attorney Ian Duguid QC successfully insisted that the three-year sentence given to Guthrie was too long, to which judges Lord Carloway, Lord Pentland and Lord Matthews agreed.

Guthrie was released from custody immediately as he has already served the equivalent of a two-year term.

The judges believe he has a low risk of re-offending.

Kevin denied the sexual assault charge but his DNA was found on the inside of her underwear.

The attack occurred between September 30 and October 1 2017.

The woman recalled Scott being absent from the room and then bed covers "being moved down" her body.

And now, after the judges agreed to reduce his sentence, Lord Carloway said: "Although it was recognised by the appellant that a custodial sentence was appropriate, it was submitted that the sheriff had attributed insufficient weight to the appellant's previous exemplary character, his charity work and the devastating effect which the conviction would have on his career.

"The court agrees with that submission. The crime committed was a serious one. It is an inexplicable one when set against the appellant's background.

"Most important, the appellant's conviction is likely to end, at least for the foreseeable future, the successful career which he has worked hard to achieve.

"In these circumstances, the court will quash the sentence of three years and substitute one of two years imprisonment."

Ну хоть что-то хорошее, дающее маленькие, но ценные кусочки душевных сил